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Christians what do you think about Trump's convictions

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
No, it is not okay for him to have slaves in my view. I think it is wrong, immoral and all that, but that is something I think.
Right so it would be perfectly ok for him to have slaves. If saw slavery as a moral good you couldnt tell him its not and remain intellectually consistent. Slavery could exist in a world run on your moral code.
 

Soandso

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Whether or not you're a biden supporter is relevant only to you.

Except that you called me a Biden supporter and then you inferred that I have no room to talk about morality because of my status as a Biden supporter

All this of course has nothing to do with what I asked you and is just another deflection. Let's go back to my question:

Ok. How would you paint Trump's morality? Would you describe him in a similar way?

Would you also call Trump something similar to a "pathological liar child groper and all around despicable human being?" There's plenty of morally despicable things Trump has done to choose in describing him, isn't there?
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
Except that you called me a Biden supporter and then you inferred that I have no room to talk about morality because of my status as a Biden supporter

All this of course has nothing to do with what I asked you and is just another deflection. Let's go back to my question:



Would you also call Trump something similar to a "pathological liar child groper and all around despicable human being?" There's plenty of morally despicable things Trump has done to choose in describing him, isn't there?
I answered that.
 

Soandso

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You can search the string. I'm confident in your ability

But the problem is is that I'm suspicious of your ability to be honest. If you said something, surely you can point to where you've said it. I've been referencing my own past posts with quotes this whole time; you can give me the same courtesy
 

Ignatius A

Well-Known Member
But the problem is is that I'm suspicious of your ability to be honest. If you said something, surely you can point to where you've said it. I've been referencing my own past posts with quotes this whole time; you can give me the same courtesy
First of all your suspicions are yours and you can keep them. They don't really affect me and dont compel me to act. Next I did point to them by referencing the thread. Lastly you dont need to say "please" but ...."could" you give me the same courtesy is likely to compel me to action..
 

Soandso

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First of all your suspicions are yours and you can keep them. They don't really affect me and dont compel me to act. Next I did point to them by referencing the thread. Lastly you dont need to say "please" but ...."could" you give me the same courtesy is likely to compel me to action..

Meh, fair enough. I'll just assume you're a dishonest person and move on. I don't have much interest in engaging with unscrupulous people
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
the facts are not the same. Biden did worse with his flimsy handling of the documents, and he was not even the president.
You have that backward, which is why Trump was indicted and Biden (and Pence) were not. Biden merely had the documents in his possession. He didn't deny having them, he didn't try to hide the documents from the government, he didn't claim that they were his property, he didn't try to claim that he declassified them, and he cooperated with authorities. Unlike with Trump, with Biden there was no criminal intent.
Ok, so, if you have some disease that makes you "viable", you can be executed like a baby?
No. Babies can't be (legally) executed. And I don't think you know what viable means. Diseases typically reduce viability.
Please give one example of such a state.
Kentucky.

Do your own research. Look at things like education, standard of living, political leaning, fentanyl OD rate, gun ownership rate, life expectancy, religiosity, and pornography consumption rate by state.
The response seems to have killed many people, especially elder people.
Biden's pandemic response saved lives, but only for those that participated. The unvaccinated continued dying at alarming rates. Those that survived had more long COVID. It also saved businesses, deferred student loans, and prevented evictions.
Also liberal is not right word for the fascists.
Agreed. You won't see the liberals embracing the word Reich, nor calling wannabe Nazis "good people." The liberals aren't calling immigrants vermin or speaking of racial purity. And Liberals don't admire dictators like Hitler and Putin. Fascists do those things.
I think it is wrong. Imagine if Trump would be elected and do the same for everyone who dares to criticize him?
That was your response to, "Many Republicans have incurred massive judgments for harmful speech lately. Alex Jones has. Rudy Giuliani has. Fox News has. Trump has. Sydney Powell will"

Maybe you didn't understand what I wrote. Did you think that Biden caused those people to lose their massive civil lawsuit?
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
There were two documents with Trump's signature shown at trial that shifted money illegally so as to pay off Stormy Danials.
I believe busy people sign a lot of things without paying much attention. It isn't proof that he intentionally broke the law. I can see a scenario where his lawyer hands him a bunch of papers to sign and he just signs them trusting the lawyer.
 
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