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Christians..... you are not the saviors of the world.

Cooky

Veteran Member
We inherited this unfortunate tendency to cultural smugness from the Greeks and then the Romans, who tended to view foreign peoples as barbaric brutes far beneath them (that includes your ancestors in Europe, if you're of Germanic, Celtic or Slavic descent).
What a biased and unsupported racist assertion to claim that specific races or cultures own responsibility in this regard.

Shameful.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
So much for you acting like you were contrite over the nastiness you spewed.

I'm over your call-out culture, Frankie. Appeasement only made it worse -I surely won't make that mistake again. At least I'm now aware of the relentlessness -so I've learned from this experience.

Not only did it not diffuse the situation, but it seems to have invited others to join in on the mobbing. So apologizing actually made it worse.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I'm over your call-out culture, Frankie. Appeasement only made it worse -I surely won't make that mistake again. At least I'm now aware of the relentlessness -so I've learned from this experience.

Not only did it not diffuse the situation, but it seems to have invited others to join in on the mobbing.
You were never contrite over the hideous things you said, anyway. You just don't like people pointing out what it makes you look like. You want free rein to spew Nazi-esque racism without consequence. Too bad.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
You were never contrite over the hideous things you said, anyway. You just don't like people pointing out what it makes you look like. You want free rein to spew Nazi-esque racism without consequence. Too bad.

The difference is that Hitler was a murderer. And my whole argument in this thread and others has been in opposition to murder.

...Hitler was also a racist. And so you attach "racist" towards my posts without any logical explanations. That's a pretty bold move, Frank. It's also very dirty, something typically a cowardous backstabber would do.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
The difference is that Hitler was a murderer. And my whole argument in this thread and others has been in opposition to murder.

...Hitler was also a racist. And so you attach "racist" towards my posts without any logical explanations. That's a pretty bold move, Frank. It's also very dirty, something typically a cowardous backstabber would do.
You have called the indigenous people of that island "savages" multiple times, you have said that they deserve smallpox (which would likely wipe them out - genocide), implied that they are subhumans or not human like you and I and should be subject to human experimentation. You have dehumanized them, their way of life (which we know next to nothing about), denied their humanity and effectively called for them to be wiped out. You obviously think this tribe is inferior and either shouldn't exist or be forced to submit to another society. Don't play games with me. We can all read here.

"Backstabber"? I was never your friend, and I fail to see how standing up to you is cowardly. Cowardly would be me saying nothing to you.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Oh, so @Rival gives Frankenstein a star. Bravo... :rolleyes:

...So how exactly have I misrepresented the post, when I clearly reposted an exact quote? Let's explore that quote, shall we?

We inherited this unfortunate tendency to cultural smugness from the Greeks and then the Romans, who tended to view foreign peoples as barbaric brutes far beneath them (that includes your ancestors in Europe, if you're of Germanic, Celtic or Slavic descent).

What does that mean to you?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Oh, so Rival gives Frankenstein a star. Bravo... :rolleyes:

...So how exactly have I misrepresented the post, when I clearly reposted an exact quote? Let's explore that quote, shall we.



What does that mean to you?
I'm referring to the Western tendency to belittle other cultures and peoples, especially when it comes to our colonial history. I never said other peoples don't do that to other cultures but I was talking about where it started in regard to Western culture. You are just trying desperately to find anything you can try to pass off as bad from me because you're mad people aren't happy with your nonsense. Sad.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
You have called the indigenous people of that island "savages" multiple times, you have said that they deserve smallpox (which would likely wipe them out - genocide), implied that they are subhumans or not human like you and I and should be subject to human experimentation. You have dehumanized them, their way of life (which we know next to nothing about), denied their humanity and effectively called for them to be wiped out. You obviously think this tribe is inferior and either shouldn't exist or be forced to submit to another society. Don't play games with me. We can all read here.

"Backstabber"? I was never your friend, and I fail to see how standing up to you is cowardly. Cowardly would be me saying nothing to you.

Okay, keep defending murder, Frank. I guess some people don't view that as something bad when certain people are doing it. For others, it's an atrocity. Nice subjective morality.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
This is just childish, don't you think? I happen to agree with what Frank is saying. I have every right to like his posts.

It's the call-out culture, Rival.... You agreed that I misrepresented the post. How so?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I'm referring to the Western tendency to belittle other cultures and peoples, especially when it comes to our colonial history. I never said other peoples don't do that to other cultures but I was talking about where it started in regard to Western culture. You are just trying desperately to find anything you can try to pass off as bad from me because you're mad people aren't happy with your nonsense. Sad.

Nothing desperate going on here. I pointed out the hypocrisy in your posts, now you're back peddling.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Okay, keep defending murder, Frank. I guess some people don't view that as something bad when certain people are doing it. For others, it's an atrocity. Nice subjective morality.
It's not murder. They're not subject to foreign laws. It's border patrol. People have the right to defend their land from outsiders, especially when the results otherwise would be so dire. He was warned and knew what he was getting into. They have made it quite clear that they want to be left alone and that deserves to be honored. His death is on his hands. However, you are promoting genocide.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
It's not murder. They're not subject to foreign laws. It's border patrol. People have the right to defend their land from outsiders, especially when the results otherwise would be so dire. He was warned and knew what he was getting into. They have made it quite clear that they want to be left alone and that deserves to be honored. His death is on his hands. However, you are promoting genocide.

It is murder. To take a life, on purpose, is murder.
 
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