Circumcision should be banned

[Rakhel]

You said that uncircumcised men enjoy sex more than circumcised. I expected you to have something to back that up.
Like a report of a man who was circumcised after being married and complained that he wasn't enjoying sex anymore.
But if it is just your sayso and you aren't circumcised, then you have no basis for your claim.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

I have news. They've proven that being uncircumcised makes sex more pleasurable for the man. They keep saying it's about being more pleasurable for the woman. What's that to me? :rainbow1:

Indeed...

What does a homosexual male care about female pleasure?

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

I think that you overly stretch the definition of "mutilation" by including circumcision, and the wide net you cast with it would include other things like, say, ear piercing for little girls... another practice that I don't think warrants an outright ban, even if I wouldn't put my own kids through it.

I do no such thing...mutilation can be carried out in degrees from ear piercing to removing someones nose with a rusty scalpel.

mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing, mu·ti·lates
1. To deprive of a limb or an essential part; cripple.
2. To disfigure by damaging irreparably: mutilate a statue. See Synonyms at batter1.
3. To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.

 

[Apex]

For some reason this reminds me of the "Religion is child abuse" BS.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Ear piercings are a choice. Circumcision isn't, because no one would choose that.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

For some reason this reminds me of the "Religion is child abuse" BS.

Well I certainly didn't introduce that into the conversation, you just did, but if you want to discuss that, we certainly can. I am religious, so you'd have a hard time convincing anyone that's really what I think.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

For some reason this reminds me of the "Religion is child abuse" BS.

In some ways it can be....just ask a choir boy...

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Ear piercings are a choice. Circumcision isn't, because no one would choose that.

They aren't a choice if the parent has it done while the child is an infant. It happens all the time.

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

They aren't a choice if the parent has it done while the child is an infant. It happens all the time.

Indeed...and it should not be done to children...in my nation there are age restrictions for piercings.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I do no such thing...mutilation can be carried out in degrees from ear piercing to removing someones nose with a rusty scalpel.

mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing, mu·ti·lates
1. To deprive of a limb or an essential part; cripple.
2. To disfigure by damaging irreparably: mutilate a statue. See Synonyms at batter1.
3. To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.

None of these definitions can be applied to circumscision.

It doesn't deprive someone of anything, it's not damaging, and it doesn't render a person imperfect.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Ear piercings are generally a choice. That's the difference.

So when you see a two-year-old girl with pierced ears, you think this was a choice of the child?

For some reason this reminds me of the "Religion is child abuse" BS.

Interesting, because my position is about the same on both circumcision and raising a child in a religion. For both:

- I see it as something generally negative
- I'm certainly not in favour of it for my own kids
- if anyone asked me whether I thought they should do it for their kids, I'd probably tell them that I didn't think it was a good idea
- if people stopped doing it of their own accord, I'd be fine with this.
- I'm not looking to get it banned, and in fact think that a legal ban would be more harmful than the alternative.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Indeed...and it should not be done to children...in my nation there are age restrictions for piercings.

 

[Flankerl]

See that's odd that female circumcision is somehow more taboo then male circumcision. They're both mutilation procedures. Double standard much?

Much...

Iam at a loss for words. You two have done it.

Ear piercings are a choice. Circumcision isn't, because no one would choose that.

Awesome you know all the men in the world in person and know what they think about this topic.



Don Quixote on the loose. oO

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I don't think children should be given piercings without consent either. Do children have rights or not? Does rights and protection in our country not extend to children to some extent?

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

None of these definitions can be applied to circumscision.

It doesn't deprive someone of anything, it's not damaging, and it doesn't render a person imperfect.

You are wrong.

It deprives people of sexual sensitivity and it is deforming....xxx

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Dont get upset...use an argument.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Awesome you know all the men in the world in person and know what they think about this topic.

Do you know any man that would actually consent to the mutilation of their man organ? If so, I want to meet this person so I can smack him upside the head.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

You are wrong.

It deprives people of sexual sensitivity and it is deforming....xxx

Obviously not.:yes:

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Do you know any man that would actually consent to the mutilation of their man organ? If so, I want to meet this person so I can smack him upside the head.

But of course Proud he would have chosen to have his penis mutilated...think of all the benefits!

Like....er.....hold on....

 

[Diogenes_the_cynic]

I just think it's assualt that causes irreversible damges. People have no idea how delicate human conciousness really is. Doing something like that to an infant to me... is just mortifying.

The thought that we all do it without remorse was one of the revalations that almost ruined my life completely. What is human empathy? People have no idea how imporant it is to be able to feel in general, no matter the nature of those feelings. To cut someone in the most sensitive place before they can even form words is just horrible cruelty.