then stop creating threads that discuss/debate people.
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Common ground.
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PearlSeeker
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"Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto."
I am a human: I regard nothing human as foreign to me. (Terence)
I am a human: I regard nothing human as foreign to me. (Terence)
PearlSeeker
Well-Known Member
A debate is not a fight. We don't have to agree on everything to live in peace and harmony.
Eh, I focus on things through a religious lens, too, but I suspect its different from what you're meaning. I don't worry about what other people do, or focus on what my religion says they should do because I think that's irrelevant. There are thousands of Gods doing thousands of things. I don't become concerned about who lines up with what.
Mostly, I ponder internally on mythological stories, on Gods from around the world, and notice when things remind me of such. I try to focus on the underlying oneness of it all; how we're all connected.
I don't do this because of any religious obligation, I do it because it brings me joy, gratitude, and (here it goes) common ground with all.
Why not find common ground outside of religious stuff? Share a great cake recipe, or enjoy some music with someone. A person's religious beliefs don't matter there. Clean up the neighborhood together. Nobody likes trash on the ground.
Actually, that's happened here. My city was the first that was propositioned by the local atheist group to do a secular invocation, and it was accepted right away. However, from that experience, the leader of said group made an absolute publicity stunt out of it(calling news and newspaper to come cover him), and so when he started propositioning the small towns in the area, they simply shut down all invocations just to avoid dealing with the flashing lights and distractions.
I think if he had been more genuine and humble about it, it could have been a really cool thing.
Not fighting is common grounds and love enough, and by fighting, I do not mean mere disagreement.
When you say that you can love a stranger just for being whoever he or she is, what does that mean that's different from somebody like me saying that I can like someone, wish him well, and if he needs assistance, help him?
How would religious differences affect that? I'm a bridge enthusiast (the card game), and I often play with or against people with religious and political views that I don't share nor consider virtues, but they never come up in our interactions. There is no atheist-versus-theist aspect to the relationship, and if one arose, I wouldn't participate - not in meat space, where we can't just click on ignore or scroll past like we do here in anonymous cyberspace.
You're looking for common ground, but that would be a barrier to us becoming friends if you and I were neighbors, for example. I would only have 30% of your life left in which to find that common ground. Your life is mostly religion. But I could still greet you when I saw you, and give you a hand if you needed it.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Common ground
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Love
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Alien826
No religious beliefs
Heyo
Veteran Member
I have an ignore list.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I see them more as a secret police, the way they hide in the shadows.Ah, the militia!
nPeace
Veteran Member
I'm wondering why you think that, since it is something that everyone who wants peace would be interested in.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not see religious people doing that but maybe you see something I don't see.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Yes, what is the common ground? Not religion, God and his messengers. But can a religion that is told to go out and tell others about this new revelation from God actually not talk about it?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
What? Are you implying that believers are saying that Atheists are not human beings?
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
You might not think so, but some people might get the feeling that a religion that says that it has replaced all the other religions, and that all the other religions in one way or another have corrupted their teachings, and that there is no doubt about it, there is one God and he has sent a new messenger that has the truth and teachings needed for today... They might be thought of as being on a "high" horse.
Can Baha'is put aside their need to spread the "word", to get along with and find the common ground with people they know will disagree with their religious beliefs?
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Still, put together a great peace march to any of those places and I'm sure there will be several people that will join with the Baha'is to go there and march for peace.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Religion in my country (UK) is.....
1. Stopping terminally ill patients in pain from asking their doctor to stop the suffering.
2. Resisting the legitimising of Humanist weddings (ie without the need for a second ceremony)
3. Christianity automatically has 20 seats in our second chamber - unelected, unrepresentative.
4. Religious schools are allowed to omit 'sensitive' topics from their curriculum.
Those come to mind, there are more
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
It's not a slap for the secular world because it applies to both the religious and the nonbelievers.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
That's not the right attitude to take into a discussion about finding the common ground. Who is the forgiver?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, but it is only wrong based on your belief, so it isn't really wrong.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Yes, how many religions are going to get along with any religion that believes it is right and the other one, is somehow, wrong? And even Baha'is are like that. They have the new, better, more accurate truth from God.
And putting a person's religious beliefs aside is necessary if the goal is to get along.