Communism - why does America hate it?

[shortfade2]

Lol, that's sorta like what I was thinking...

A lot of the same stuff people say about communism now (it won't work, it's against human nature, LOOK AT HOW IT FAILED IN THIS OTHER COUNTRY, etc) were being said about democracy a few centuries ago... remember revolutionary France? Everyone was pointing fingers to how their republic had failed miserably and turned into a reign of terror by the Jacobins. Sorta like how people are saying that communism failed in the soviet union.

My way of looking at things is that the smaller the area being governed then the more successful it will it be. Like how well the democracy of Athens worked.

 

[Zephyr]

Like how well the democracy of Athens worked.

I too believe that only adult males with military training should be allowed to vote.

 

[shortfade2]

I too believe that only adult males with military training should be allowed to vote.

i was actually refering to a small area to be governed works better than a big area with big government that controlls everything. way to take things out of context, but thats just what people do when they dont have any other good points. :foot: thats what they should do.

 

[Zephyr]

i was actually refering to a small area to be governed works better than a big area with big government that controlls everything. way to take things out of context, but thats just what people do when they dont have any other good points. :foot: thats what they should do.

Just saying that if you want to give something as an example of something that worked very well, it helps to pick and example that, well, worked very well. Don't get me wrong, I agree: Smaller groups are far easier to organize and I support more localization of power in most cases. It's just that that was a very poor example to use. I know of some rather good ones, but I fear they may be a bit too "lefty" for ya.

 

[shortfade2]

Just saying that if you want to give something as an example of something that worked very well, it helps to pick and example that, well, worked very well. Don't get me wrong, I agree: Smaller groups are far easier to organize and I support more localization of power in most cases. It's just that that was a very poor example to use. I know of some rather good ones, but I fear they may be a bit too "lefty" for ya.

So local, smaller governments work, which is why we should have a big government over large areas. Instead of having most of the power in the local government we should have it all in the federal government...makes sence.

 

[Zephyr]

So local, smaller governments work, which is why we should have a big government over large areas. Instead of having most of the power in the local government we should have it all in the federal government...makes sence.

Interesting, so you assume that communism must always be based over a large area?

 

[yossarian22]

If you are talking about communism you are talking about the specific lack of central governmental authority.

 

[shortfade2]

not communism. Basically, I believe that the federal government is too large. It should basically only consist of a very small, version of the local government, A military, and the departments. Such as the FBI CIA DHS and all of the other 300 billion and a half of them.

 

[yossarian22]

not communism. Basically, I believe that the federal government is too large. It should basically only consist of a very small, version of the local government, A military, and the departments. Such as the FBI CIA DHS and all of the other 300 billion and a half of them.

So the federal government should only consist of the military. Forget national infrastructure, our government should exist for the sole purpose of killing people.

Also, this conversation was about communism.

 

[shortfade2]

Yes, because militaries just randomly kill people. No, to kill people. And the Federal would basically tie the local governments together so it is not just a buch of cities.

 

[madhatter85]

and who would build and maintain roads and public works and utilities?

 

[yossarian22]

Yes, because militaries just randomly kill people.

Yes they do.
For example, American bombers in Vietnam were encouraged to drop their spare munitions onto Laos, a neutral country that had the unfortunate luck of being near Vietnam

And the Federal would basically tie the local governments together so it is not just a buch of cities.

So essentially the federal goverment should be nothing more than the military whose sole purpose is tying a bunch of cities together.

I hope you realize how idiotic this sounds.

 

[shortfade2]

No. I think that the federal government should be as small as polible. I know that the only a military sounds idiotic, but Local governments could do what the people in the local areas elect their officials to do. I feel like the system would work a lot faster

 

[yossarian22]

No. I think that the federal government should be as small as polible. I know that the only a military sounds idiotic, but Local governments could do what the people in the local areas elect their officials to do. I feel like the system would work a lot faster

Unless you wanted to build something in between 2 cities. In which case it would pretty much never be done.

 

[Gharib]

i'm just going to answer your topic question;

Communism - why does America hate it?

because communists hate communists just as theives hate other theives.

 

[Bismillah]

See Hong Kong. The antithesis of communism.

 

[lamplighter]

No. I think that the federal government should be as small as polible. I know that the only a military sounds idiotic, but Local governments could do what the people in the local areas elect their officials to do. I feel like the system would work a lot faster

You know this why the Confederate States of America declared their secession from the USA? They thought state laws should be able to override federal law with slavery being the root cause of this. Reducing central government involvement to a mostly military role.

 

[T-Dawg]

because communists hate communists just as theives hate other theives.

... Are you saying that people who believe in the sharing of resources and the equality of man are theives?

 

[Gharib]

... Are you saying that people who believe in the sharing of resources and the equality of man are theives?

no thats not what i'm saying. i just used that to back up my first point. but if you think the US is a theif then i might as well agree with you.

 

[tumbleweed41]

i'm just going to answer your topic question;



because communists hate communists just as theives hate other theives.

Unfounded statement