Cops Love To Bully & Assault Civilians

[Heyo]

The mob and basically any Nation are the only other ones I know of.

Do nations have jobs? There are people in those nations who have jobs. Jobs like secret agent, who employ all of those tactics. They are kind of like cops on steroids.

 

[Audie]

Parenthetically, how many professions have
workers kidnap, frame, maim & murder
innocent people as part of the job?

Two. The cops n the robbers.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Do nations have jobs? There are people in those nations who have jobs. Jobs like secret agent, who employ all of those tactics. They are kind of like cops on steroids.

Yeah. I was struggling to think of a way to word that includes both things like post-revolution Iran, Third Riech, or USSR, but also the ones like England and America. But then I realized pretty much every country has engaged in some nasty things so no special wording needed, lol.

 

[Revoltingest]

For those interested, 2 cops assaulted a man
who wasn't resisting, admit he wasn't resisting,
but later lie claiming that he was resisting.
We have 2 cops who beat him simply for
the crime of disrespect of cop.
The prosecutor drops all charges against
the victim. But the cops will keep on doing
this until they get prosecuted.
BTW, this & many other beatings by cops
are so violent that youtube won't allow'm
to be shown.

 

[Revoltingest]

@Shadow Wolf....
Even Canuckistan has ignorant abusive pigs.

 

[Revoltingest]

In Texas, a an poses no threat.
Cops arrest him so violently that his leg was
severed by compound fracture so bad that it
had to be completely amputated. He was lucky
to not have bled out at the scene.
Cops lied that he posed a threat, but rest assured
that the department is investigating itself, & is
silent on this debacle.

It's fascinating that cops are able to legally do things
to civilians that are so horrific that youtube won't
allow us to see them. Yet cops are able to perpetrate
such acts?

Lost leg: Zapata man sues as deputies' takedown causes amputation

A Zapata man is filing a lawsuit claiming excessive force from deputies resulted in the amputation of his leg and nearly cost him his life.

www.chron.com

 

[Revoltingest]

In the above case, the guy is only suing for
$500,000 for the trauma & loss of his leg.
He's let'n the government off cheap!

 

[Heyo]

In Texas, a an poses no threat.
Cops arrest him so violently that his leg was
severed by compound fracture so bad that it
had to be completely amputated. He was lucky
to not have bled out at the scene.
Cops lied that he posed a threat, but rest assured
that the department is investigating itself, & is
silent on this debacle.

It's fascinating that cops are able to legally do things
to civilians that are so horrific that youtube won't
allow us to see them. Yet cops are able to perpetrate
such acts?

Lost leg: Zapata man sues as deputies' takedown causes amputation

A Zapata man is filing a lawsuit claiming excessive force from deputies resulted in the amputation of his leg and nearly cost him his life.

www.chron.com

I just wrote in another thread about "failed states". While I'm not making the case, I could imagine that someone does. Maybe in a new thread: Is the USA a failed state?

 

[PureX]

Some years back I read an online article about the experiences of an officer in the British prison service. He told of two things, firstly that the service did not work and secondly, that violence was the only alternative left for him and his colleagues. Now when this became known, lots of people got very angry and demanded change, to the violence of course, not the system. So the officers were left with a still broken system but nothing else. So they did what they had to do in order to survive - they turned a blind eye to the smuggling and use of drugs. If nothing else it kept the inmates quiet.
So far the result would seem to be that officer violence has been reduced but officer corruption, organised crime and the failure of reform have all increased.
It is easy to scream and shout at authority, but what have you got to replace it? I have seen lots of concern on RF but so far not one practical solution.

Being a prison guard is a very, very different scenario from being a police officer.

 

[Revoltingest]

I just wrote in another thread about "failed states". While I'm not making the case, I could imagine that someone does. Maybe in a new thread: Is the USA a failed state?

I don't over-react to problems
by condemning the country.

 

[Heyo]

I don't over-react to problems
by condemning the country.

Let me rephrase that question: Is there a powerful group systematically disregarding the law and is the government incapable of holding members of that group accountable?

 

[Revoltingest]

Let me rephrase that question: Is there a powerful group systematically disregarding the law and is the government incapable of holding members of that group accountable?

"Incapable" isn't the right word to describe a
widespread terrible problem that shows some
signs of improving. The biggest impediment?
Liberals & conservatives.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I just wrote in another thread about "failed states". While I'm not making the case, I could imagine that someone does. Maybe in a new thread: Is the USA a failed state?

Thinking of it, I think we have enough states that have been around long enough that they really haven't failed despite many of them seeing such circumstances.
Germany perhaps demonstrates this best in the West because it has fallen and hit the ground hard, but it's not Humpty Dumpty and it got up and stands strong today.

 

[Heyo]

Thinking of it, I think we have enough states that have been around long enough that they really haven't failed despite many of them seeing such circumstances.
Germany perhaps demonstrates this best in the West because it has fallen and hit the ground hard, but it's not Humpty Dumpty and it got up and stands strong today.

The "Third Reich" failed and ended in 1945. The GDR failed and ended in 1989. Germany only exists (in its current form) for 33 years. A state failing doesn't preclude a new one arising in the same location.

 

[Heyo]

"Incapable" isn't the right word

Unable or unwilling, the problem stays the same.

to describe a
widespread terrible problem that shows some
signs of improving. The biggest impediment?
Liberals & conservatives.

If the US can't deal with those two, it is going to fail.
They are already listed as failing democracy on the
freedom index.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The "Third Reich" failed and ended in 1945. The GDR failed and ended in 1989. Germany only exists (in its current form) for 33 years. A state failing doesn't preclude a new one arising in the same location.

I am aware. But while it's modern young form is very young, that doesn't change that Germanness has been a thing for awhile amd though it's changed forms with failures at the helm, Germany still stands todayddespite past failures.
Or it's just a mirror of us because it's an extension of us. We all fail, but that doesn't make us failures.

 

[Revoltingest]

Unable or unwilling, the problem stays the same.

I see change.
All thanx to ubiquitous cameras & youtube.

If the US can't deal with those two, it is going to fail.
They are already listed as failing democracy on the
freedom index.

Your list is histrionic.
We've plenty of democracy.
The problem is what voters want.
They should want what I want instead.

 

[Heyo]

I see change.
All thanx to ubiquitous cameras & youtube.

... and small, dedicated groups who demand change but don't have political impact - yet.

Your list is histrionic.
We've plenty of democracy.

And you're losing it rapidly. When nearly half of the citizenry doesn't trust in the voting system, that is an indicator for a failing democracy.

The problem is what voters want.
They should want what I want instead.

They do want what you want, at least the majority does. But they aren't dedicated enough to win over the minority who is dedicated to resist change.

 

[Revoltingest]

... and small, dedicated groups who demand change but don't have political impact - yet.

I like the "yet" part.

And you're losing it rapidly. When nearly half of the citizenry doesn't trust in the voting system, that is an indicator for a failing democracy.

Lack of trust doesn't bother me.
We still vote, & we get the winner,
Trump's attempted coup notwithstanding.

They do want what you want, at least the majority does. But they aren't dedicated enough to win over the minority who is dedicated to resist change.

Majority rule can be a terrible thing.
But that's what democracy is.
And of course, we have a constitution
to provide a limiting & damping function.

Your argument that our democracy is failing
seems more of a list of complaints than an
argument to categorize it as such.

 

[Revoltingest]

Many cops act out of anger.
Civil rights & standard procedures are out
the window when vengeance is their goal.

Watch a man with his hands up, standing
still, & posing no threat. Cops order the
dog to attack him anyway, viciously
ripping his flesh.
Cops are investigating themselves.