Cops Love To Bully & Assault Civilians

[Bthoth]

We see it over & over. Cops use any pretext
to beat & arrest people. Doesn't matter if
there's no reasonable suspicion of a crime.
This former cop explains how he was trained,
& why cops escalate matters, intend injury,
& construct a scenario to frame the victim
for a fake crime. Victim has a $75,000
medical bill. Suit is inevitable.

I have a friend who is a retired Sergeant of the policy force, he told me that his officers often get mad at drunk drivers. That some just hope the perp resists arrest. I asked why, that sounds like a lousy disposition of an officer of the law. He told me, most are completely changed when they arrive at an accident and families are physically ripped apart by a drunk driver, that often the drunk survives with little more than a knot on the forehead.

I said 'OH... I can see how that could make someone mad at drunks.'

 

[Revoltingest]

I have a friend who is a retired Sergeant of the policy force, he told me that his officers often get mad at drunk drivers. That some just hope the perp resists arrest. I asked why, that sounds like a lousy disposition of an officer of the law. He told me, most are completely changed when they arrive at an accident and families are physically ripped apart by a drunk driver, that often the drunk survives with little more than a knot on the forehead.

I said 'OH... I can see how that could make someone mad at drunks.'

Geeze...yet another cop looking for
an excuse to give a beat down.

 

[Bthoth]

Geeze...yet another cop looking for
an excuse to give a beat down.

Bad guys often get away with murder. it's enough to tick off even Mary Poppins.

 

[Revoltingest]

Bad guys often get away with murder. it's enough to tick off even Mary Poppins.

And cops use that kind of excuse to
abuse even innocent people.

 

[fantome profane]

I have a friend who is a retired Sergeant of the policy force, he told me that his officers often get mad at drunk drivers. That some just hope the perp resists arrest. I asked why, that sounds like a lousy disposition of an officer of the law. He told me, most are completely changed when they arrive at an accident and families are physically ripped apart by a drunk driver, that often the drunk survives with little more than a knot on the forehead.

I said 'OH... I can see how that could make someone mad at drunks.'

Fine, be angry. But if they can't control their anger they should get a different job.

(And whatever job they get, they still need to control their anger, doesn't matter you are a cop, or a florist, you can't punch someone because you are angry)

 

[Heyo]

(And whatever job they get, they still need to control their anger, doesn't matter you are a cop, or a florist, you can't punch someone because you are angry)

Well, you can if you are a professional boxer.

 

[fantome profane]

Well, you can if you are a professional boxer.

Touché.

 

[Bthoth]

And cops use that kind of excuse to
abuse even innocent people.

that thought does not cross my mind.

 

[Revoltingest]

that thought does not cross my mind.

A great many cops hate the public.
Any excuse to beat, choke, injure, & frame innocent people.

 

[Bthoth]

A great many cops hate the public.
Any excuse to beat, choke, injure, & frame innocent people.

People are imperfect.

The police (cops) are just US citizens doing a job. Everyone of them are the children of US Americans.

Just like the military are OUR CHILDREN and family members.

Likewise, many of our own, can be a bit off their rocker!

Hating the men in blue, is not just rude but down right STUPID as that embodiment of law ENFORCEMENT is how and why 'we the people' can live as 'we' do................ free, safe and capable of expecting justice.

 

[Heyo]

Hating the men in blue, is not just rude but down right STUPID as that embodiment of law ENFORCEMENT is how and why 'we the people' can live as 'we' do................ free, safe and capable of expecting justice.

I don't think you got the gist of the OP (and all the others with a similar topic).
It's not about "the cops", it's about a paradoxical situation in the law. When those who are tasked with enforcing the law, they don't know it and can break it with impunity, something is very wrong.
Qualified immunity is the main problem.
Insufficient training is another problem.
Psych evaluation is next.
People "off their rocker" shouldn't become LEOs. To enforce the law, you need to know it. For the law to be just, it has to apply to everyone.
That's what it's about, not failures of any one cop. Those failures are not (only) personal but systemic.

 

[We Never Know]

I don't think you got the gist of the OP (and all the others with a similar topic).
It's not about "the cops", it's about a paradoxical situation in the law. When those who are tasked with enforcing the law, they don't know it and can break it with impunity, something is very wrong.
Qualified immunity is the main problem.
Insufficient training is another problem.
Psych evaluation is next.
People "off their rocker" shouldn't become LEOs. To enforce the law, you need to know it. For the law to be just, it has to apply to everyone.
That's what it's about, not failures of any one cop. Those failures are not (only) personal but systemic.

I changed just a few words and it applies to our government.

When those who are tasked with making the laws can break them with immunity, something is very wrong.
Qualified immunity is the main problem.
Insufficient training is another problem.
Psych evaluation is next.
People "off their rocker" shouldn't become government officials. To make the laws, you need to follow said laws. For the law to be just, it has to apply to everyone.

 

[Revoltingest]

People are imperfect.

The police (cops) are just US citizens doing a job. Everyone of them are the children of US Americans.

Just like the military are OUR CHILDREN and family members.

Likewise, many of our own, can be a bit off their rocker!

Hating the men in blue, is not just rude but down right STUPID as that embodiment of law ENFORCEMENT is how and why 'we the people' can live as 'we' do................ free, safe and capable of expecting justice.

You're veering off the real issues....
- Cops should be vetted more thoroughly.
Weed out those with flaws inconsistent with serving
the public, & possessing a license to kill. No bullies,
thieves, or fools. No immature, dumb, ignorant, angry,
bigoted, or dishonest people.
- Cops should be better educated & trained.
- Cops should be accountable for their errors & crimes.
- Cops should be better supervised.
- Cops should have a culture of serving the public,
not hating them, & dedicated to protecting their
own from accountability.

 

[Bthoth]

You're veering off the real issues....

I responded to your wild response. Below is far more detailed with ideas.

- Cops should be vetted more thoroughly.

great. Will you obtain your credentials to participate? Real question is, could you pass?

Weed out those with flaws inconsistent with serving
the public, & possessing a license to kill. No bullies,
thieves, or fools. No immature, dumb, ignorant, angry,
bigoted, or dishonest people.

agreed

- Cops should be better educated & trained.
- Cops should be accountable for their errors & crimes.
- Cops should be better supervised.
- Cops should have a culture of serving the public,

Department of public service (DPS). The term 'cops' is from britain.

not hating them,

they dont hate US, they work for US.

& dedicated to protecting their
own from accountability.

Defend the home team (US).


I am thinking that you need to spend time with officers that are off duty. Perhaps a football game, softball, basketball....Something with officers in your home town, to learn and experience the persons before the media opinions/stories.

If you come across a son or perhaps grand daughter of someone that you knew as a child, you just might overcome that bias with a bit of love and respect for the people that actually do the work of 'to protect and to serve'.

 

[Little Dragon]

The job attracts people who like to have and use authority.

It attracts people who respect authority and the rule of law.
In the UK under the E&W legal system, the citizen has powers of arrest, that are arguably, more wide ranging than those of a police officer, who has to abide by strict regulatory standards, when making arrests. For example, a UK citizen doesn't even have to declare he or she is making an arrest to a suspect or read them any rights or notices, and can hold them in their custody until police arrive to take over.

 

[Revoltingest]

Will you obtain your credentials to participate? Real question is, could you pass?

This isn't about me personally.
Besides, I never have done uniforms & regimentation.
I'd never be a cop, soldier, politician, or Boy Scout.

The term 'cops' is from britain.

"Cop" is an Ameristanian term too.

they dont hate US, they work for US.

There is very much an "us against them"
attitude by cops towards civilians.
This is seen in many interactions.

Defend the home team (US).

It should be to honor the law & the profession.
Not to help their buddies get away with crimes.

I am thinking that you need to spend time with officers that are off duty.

I do.
And I see the great variety among cops.
Some are decent...at least in my limited experience with them.
And some are thugs.
One worked for me as a contractor. He threatened to beat
up co-workers, & bomb a tenant's car. He's currently being
prosecuted for possessing child porn.

Perhaps a football game, softball, basketball....Something with officers in your home town, to learn and experience the persons before the media opinions/stories.

Many cops who get caught committing terrible crimes
are "officer of the year", & defended by friends & family
as wonderful guys. But they don't see these cops on the
job behaving savagely.

If you come across a son or perhaps grand daughter of someone that you knew as a child, you just might overcome that bias with a bit of love and respect for the people that actually do the work of 'to protect and to serve'.

You just might overcome your bias if some day you, a
friend, or family member have a run-in with a bad cop.
A friend of mine was framed for a murder. He beat the
bad cops by having surveillance footage of the incident.
I've dealt with cops in the course of business. I've found
them to generally to be lazy, dumb, & abusive on the job.
I've also had 3 different cops work for me...1 sheriff's deputy,
1 state drug cop, & 1 federal marshal.

 

[Little Dragon]

You're veering off the real issues....
- Cops should be vetted more thoroughly.
Weed out those with flaws inconsistent with serving
the public, & possessing a license to kill. No bullies,
thieves, or fools. No immature, dumb, ignorant, angry,
bigoted, or dishonest people.
- Cops should be better educated & trained.
- Cops should be accountable for their errors & crimes.
- Cops should be better supervised.
- Cops should have a culture of serving the public,
not hating them, & dedicated to protecting their
own from accountability.

I notice in the state, it seems the quantity of cops, especially cities like NY, is high, but the quality varies quite a bit.

 

[Revoltingest]

I notice in the state, it seems the quantity of cops, especially cities like NY, is high, but the quality varies quite a bit.

All the way from mediocre to terrible?

 

[Little Dragon]

All the way from mediocre to terrible?

I've seen better. Polis man. Which means man of the city, not pumped up gun nut.

 

[Revoltingest]

It attracts people who respect authority and the rule of law.

Like this cop.
Man is just holding a sign on a public side walk.
This is perfectly legal.
Cop demands his ID, & claims law requires the man provide it.
Michigan law doesn't.
The man knows this, & refuses.
Cop beats man, chokes man, breaks man's leg, & arrests him.
The prosecutor found no crime committed.
After 6 years, the taxpayers finally pay man $375,000 for cop's illegal assault & arrest.
The Sheriff Department still admits no wrongdoing by their thug.

Manistee County's court case settled for $375K after 2017 incident in Manistee

The Manistee County settlement was listed as costing $375,000, according to the release...

www.manisteenews.com

Body cam video & legal analysis....