Democrats had better not even think of it.

[Twilight Hue]

Oh i didnt even notice. Fox news lmao

Laugh all you want about them they're in the middle of the pack in regards to journalistic accuracy .

 

[Anthem]

Laugh all you want about them they're in the middle of the pack in regards to journalistic accuracy .

What pack? Reachable? Yes. Everywhere....

.....



Que

 

[Shaul]

the president has a long history of encouraging violence throughout his campaign and Presidency. Have you ever heard what he says at his rallies???

Yes, and he doesn’t promote violence. Have you ever seen the actual violence of anti-Trump supporters?

 

[Altfish]

Not for lack of attempts. President Ford was shot at twice and President Reagan was shot. Three of the four Presidents actually assassinated while in office were Republicans.

I'm not apportioning blame, I'm saying there are nutters on all sides. I just find this very suspicious that it is just before the mid-Terms that the GOP are bringing it to the press.

 

[Altfish]

At the behest and suggestions of elected officials?

Well Trump has been very complimentary about her. Lyndsey Graham was equally full of praise for her.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

What!? It says 34 killed by extremists and 20 of them, or 59% were right wing. Did you read your own source?

I did - sorry, I mixed up numbers from that article and the one with the link I followed to get to that one, which gave stats for a longer timespan.

And there are even more cars of left wing violence.

By "cars," I assume you mean "cases." Like I said, that article was specifically about killings; there's plenty of right-wing violence that doesn't result in death.

At any protest antifa is strongly tied to anarchists and both groups are violent.

Antifa meets violence with violence. It's a response to violent right-wing groups like skinheads.

And on the right, we have a number of groups who routinely use violence. Take the Proud Boys: to reach the highest rank of their group, a member has to get into a fight with an Antifa member. There are several incidents of Proud Boys assaulting people at rallies, including the beating of DeAndre Harris:

Assault of DeAndre Harris - Wikipedia

BTW: I notice you didn't respond to my point about the right's penchant for brandishing weapons at protests, which itself is a threat of violence.

 

[Nakosis]

Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Even Rand Paul is voicing concerns.

Has the Democrat Party gone this far over the edge that they become a credible threat?

It only takes one crazy person. Unfortunately there are enough crazy folks on both sides of the divide.

I doubt any will hold the whole party as responsible but maybe the Democratic leaders should consider toning down the rhetoric a bit.

And there's Trump right? He seems to delight in saying things to **** off the left. I don't think though there is much anyone can do to tone Trump down.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Laugh all you want about them they're in the middle of the pack in regards to journalistic accuracy .

Hardly. Fox News rates on the boundary between "unfair interpretations of the news" and "nonsense damaging to public discourse." See the link for the rationale behind its rating.

The Chart, Version 3.0: What, Exactly, Are We Reading? - ad fontes media

 

[Twilight Hue]

It only takes one crazy person. Unfortunately there are enough crazy folks on both sides of the divide.

I doubt any will hold the whole party as responsible but maybe the Democratic leaders should consider toning down the rhetoric a bit.

And there's Trump right? He seems to delight in saying things to **** off the left. I don't think though there is much anyone can do to tone Trump down.

That's true. There are a lot of crazy people that are driven to do all sorts of things. I just don't think politicians whether Republican or Democrat should say things that would encourage any kind of behavior like that .

However Democrats in particular seem to be taking the lead when it comes to craziness of late , given the erratic and vitriolic behavior they are displaying.

 

[metis]

Really ?

Yes, really.

 

[Stanyon]

The difference between right wing hate groups and left wing hate groups is that the right wing ones all have guns,, as that study showed 71% of extremist killing by far right wing groups and only 3% from left wing groups, the rest were extremist (right wing) Muslims.

The far-right was responsible for the majority of America’s extremist killings in 2017

Right week extremists killed 36 people nationwide in the entire year in 2017? Around 300 people were killed in Chicago in three days around the 4th of July, and that is just one city. It has been said by more than a few police chiefs from different cities that approximately %60 of gun violence is gang related.

 

[metis]

Hardly. Fox News rates on the boundary between "unfair interpretations of the news" and "nonsense damaging to public discourse." See the link for the rationale behind its rating.

The Chart, Version 3.0: What, Exactly, Are We Reading? - ad fontes media

Yep, and there were three independent studies done somewhat over 10 years ago that concluded those that watch Fox for most of their news know less real news than those who don't watch any news at all. And Fox viewers also tested well below even those who mostly watch MSNBC.

Fox is a propaganda channel as Murdock made it clear when he formed it, saying that it would cover news from a conservative perspective. Their slant of the news is atrocious, but those who continually watch mainly just that certainly would know this.

 

[Revoltingest]

The difference between right wing hate groups and left wing hate groups is that the right wing ones all have guns,, as that study showed 71% of extremist killing by far right wing groups and only 3% from left wing groups, the rest were extremist (right wing) Muslims.

The far-right was responsible for the majority of America’s extremist killings in 2017

With leftish commentary like this.....
Georgetown Issues Statement BACKING Professor Who Said White Republican Men Should Be Murdered, Castrated
......we might be seeing Democrats co-opting the old Avis slogan.
"We're number 2, but we try harder."
(For the unfamiliar, Herz was numero uno.)

I'd rather not argue over who is worse.
Just keep the conversation civil.

 

[Lyndon]

Right week extremists killed 36 people nationwide in the entire year in 2017? Around 300 people were killed in Chicago in three days around the 4th of July, and that is just one city. It has been said by more than a few police chiefs from different cities that approximately %60 of gun violence is gang related.

And I guess you don't think guns had anything to do with it!!!

 

[Revoltingest]

Not for lack of attempts. President Ford was shot at twice and President Reagan was shot. Three of the four Presidents actually assassinated while in office were Republicans.

I have a terrible joke.
Really.....it's in poor taste, & entirely unfair.

Spoiler: I'm not kidding. It's awful.

Democrats claiming to be the party of tolerance is like
Islam claiming to be the religion of peace.

I warned ya'll.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

Rand Paul warns of 'assassination' peril after Kavanaugh confirmation: 'I really worry someone is going to be killed'

Even Rand Paul is voicing concerns.

Has the Democrat Party gone this far over the edge that they become a credible threat?

You are being played........

 

[Subduction Zone]

I did - sorry, I mixed up numbers from that article and the one with the link I followed to get to that one, which gave stats for a longer timespan.


By "cars," I assume you mean "cases." Like I said, that article was specifically about killings; there's plenty of right-wing violence that doesn't result in death.



Antifa meets violence with violence. It's a response to violent right-wing groups like skinheads.

And on the right, we have a number of groups who routinely use violence. Take the Proud Boys: to reach the highest rank of their group, a member has to get into a fight with an Antifa member. There are several incidents of Proud Boys assaulting people at rallies, including the beating of DeAndre Harris:

Assault of DeAndre Harris - Wikipedia

BTW: I notice you didn't respond to my point about the right's penchant for brandishing weapons at protests, which itself is a threat of violence.

I was in bed and using my tablet with the worlds worst "autocorrect". Sometimes it does catch an error, to often it lets an error slip through or even worse changes a correct word. For example earlier today I typed a Hebrew word "Bethula" and it insisted that the word was "Gerbils". Why? I don't know. So yes, cars was cases.

And no, Anitfa does not meet violence with violence. If that was the truth I would not have a problem with them. They tend to start the violence today. The far left is more violent, except for the relatively few cases where it went to death, than the far right. This is the first that I have ever heard of "The Proud Boys" they must be an even smaller group than Antifa. By you having to stretch that far it tells us that your argument is not that strong.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

And no, Anitfa does not meet violence with violence. If that was the truth I would not have a problem with them.

"Modern antifa politics can be traced to opposition to the infiltration of Britain's punkscene by white power skinheads in the 1970s and 1980s, and the emergence of neo-Nazismin Germany following the fall of the Berlin Wall.[16] In Germany, young leftists, including anarchists and punk fans, renewed the practice of street-level anti-fascism."

Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia

The far left is more violent, except for the relatively few cases where it went to death, than the far right.

You're joking, aren't you?

This is the first that I have ever heard of "The Proud Boys" they must be an even smaller group than Antifa. By you having to stretch that far it tells us that your argument is not that strong.

If you weren't watching the news, I don't know what to tell you. DeAndre Williams's beating certainly got coverage nationally when it happened (on the legitimate news networks, anyway - I can't say if Fox News covered it).

They got more prominent coverage in Canada last year after a few of their members, who also happened to be in the Canadian Navy, disrupted a native ceremony in a park:

Two Navy members involved in confrontation at Indigenous ceremony on Canada Day | The Star

Racist attitudes by people who represent our country still gets a negative reaction in Canada.

Canadian news ran a lot of "who are the Proud Boys?"-type stories after the incident, which led to a lot of coverage here of their violence in the US.

 

[LuisDantas]

Really? What is, or had been said that is on par with what the Democrats have been saying of late?

Eh. If you do not know yet, I have no chance of convincing you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"Modern antifa politics can be traced to opposition to the infiltration of Britain's punkscene by white power skinheads in the 1970s and 1980s, and the emergence of neo-Nazismin Germany following the fall of the Berlin Wall.[16] In Germany, young leftists, including anarchists and punk fans, renewed the practice of street-level anti-fascism."

Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia


You're joking, aren't you?



If you weren't watching the news, I don't know what to tell you. DeAndre Williams's beating certainly got coverage nationally when it happened (on the legitimate news networks, anyway - I can't say if Fox News covered it).

They got more prominent coverage in Canada last year after a few of their members, who also happened to be in the Canadian Navy, disrupted a native ceremony in a park:

Two Navy members involved in confrontation at Indigenous ceremony on Canada Day | The Star

Racist attitudes by people who represent our country still gets a negative reaction in Canada.

Canadian news ran a lot of "who are the Proud Boys?"-type stories after the incident, which led to a lot of coverage here of their violence in the US.

The subject was the Antifa of today. Not of the past. And today they appear to be far more violent than the right. But then that may reflect the news sources that we use:

This occurred earlier this month:

Antifa Shut Down Major Intersection, Threaten Citizens with Violence If They Don't Obey

And another, this time a liberal was attacked by Antifa for carrying a flag:

This Liberal Carried an American Flag to Protest Fascism in Portland. Antifa Cracked His Head Open With a Bat.

No "fascists" to attack so they attack the press indestead:

Antifa protesters couldn’t find any fascists at Unite the Right — and harassed the press instead

And I have barely skimmed the surface.