Democrats had better not even think of it.

[Twilight Hue]

You are being played........

Time will tell.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The subject was the Antifa of today. Not of the past.

I can't say what you were talking about, but I was talking about the reasons that Antifa exists:

"It's a response to violent right-wing groups like skinheads."

And today they appear to be far more violent than the right. But then that may reflect the news sources that we use:

Could be, since I get my news from legitimate outlets.

This occurred earlier this month:

Antifa Shut Down Major Intersection, Threaten Citizens with Violence If They Don't Obey

And another, this time a liberal was attacked by Antifa for carrying a flag:

This Liberal Carried an American Flag to Protest Fascism in Portland. Antifa Cracked His Head Open With a Bat.

No "fascists" to attack so they attack the press indestead:

Antifa protesters couldn’t find any fascists at Unite the Right — and harassed the press instead

And I have barely skimmed the surface.

In Portland, I witnessed the violence of White Pride in Trump's America | Opinion

John Sepulvado, a reporter who has been covering far-right groups for Bay Area public radio station KQED, told us the violence at recent alt-right demonstrations has been used to recruit, and when “antifa” shows up to fight them it can play into their game plan. “They’re turning the traditional desire for objectivity by the media on its head,” he told us.

[...]Sepulvado told us the pattern of inciting violence at rallies from the alt-right has gone this way:

Announce an event that’s going to **** everyone who has common sense off, something so outrageous it’s going to **** 99 percent of the population off, then when someone gets on Twitter [and threatens them], send out a press release saying, “we can’t practice our free speech rights because of leftist violence.” Then show up anyway. They have canceled so many rallies that they showed up at anyway and still rallied. The “threat of leftist violence” means they need to wear body armor and bring weapons. If it’s an open carry state they’ll have [firearms]. If it’s not an open carry state they’ll bring firecrackers and sticks.

And then when someone… pushes them or spits on them, they’ll use that as an excuse to strike out. Then the leftists will strike out, and the media won’t know who’s who.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/

 

[Stanyon]

And I guess you don't think guns had anything to do with it!!!

Guns are inanimate objects and in many of the cases they are being used by people who couldn't legally have them in the first place and much of the gun violence is in cities with the strictest gun laws. I'd say greed and people with little to no regard for human life and the rule of law to be the most responsible.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I can't say what you were talking about, but I was talking about the reasons that Antifa exists:

"It's a response to violent right-wing groups like skinheads."



Could be, since I get my news from legitimate outlets.


In Portland, I witnessed the violence of White Pride in Trump's America | Opinion


https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/

Please, you did not find one bad source by me. And even snopes appears to be reaching to support their claims. I have not said that violence does not exist among the right, but it is worse among the left right now. You have to keep going quite far back in the past to support your claims.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Do you think anti-Kavanaugh sentiment is from the 'lunatic far-left'?

Not all of it. There are valid criticisms.

 

[Woberts]

Not that it should be a numbers game but I would really wonder what party gets shot at the most from a statistical standpoint?

I would say from a historical standpoint Republicans get shot at more than Democrats suggesting the character of the party itself as to what political party harbors the more inclination for its sympathizers and supporters to actually go out and do things like this.

It's a wee bit disingenuous to say that Democrats are the most violent party because Republican presidents have been shot at more. There are more than just those two political parties, after all.
And quite a few Republicans dislike Trump, for example, so they are just as likely to pop him in the dome as a Democrat.

 

[Woberts]

It's definitely a possibility. We've already had a Republican politician shot for political reasons, and cops being gunned down in this atmosphere of out of control visceral hatred of the police being fostered by lunatic far-leftists who feel emboldened by BLM nonsense. There doesn't seem to be an end in sight or limit to it.

Please, tell me more about how black people's lives don't matter.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Please, tell me more about how black people's lives don't matter.

Sorry to interrupt, but it does not seem to me that disagreeing with the tactics of BLM (which I certainly do) is in any way at all the same as supposing that black lives don't matter. So yes, I think that was trolling...

 

[Mister Emu]

I'm not sure Rand is correct, but his perspective is from having twice been a target of the growing miasma of anger coating our nation. I think we are a few decades away from a real threat of active political violence in the country.

 

[Lyndon]

I think we are one Trump defeat away from wide spread violence and rioting!!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think we are a few decades away from a real threat of active political violence in the country.

There already is active political violence in your country:

Deported Parents May Lose Their Children to Adoption: Report

North Carolina is the epicenter of the fight over voting rights ahead of the midterms

And threats of violence:

Donald Trump’s attacks on media violate basic freedom of the press, UN human rights experts say

“We are especially concerned that these attacks increase the risk of journalists being targeted with violence,” they said. “Each time the president calls the media ‘the enemy of the people’ or fails to allow questions from reporters from disfavoured outlets, he suggests nefarious motivations or animus. But he has failed to show even once that specific reporting has been driven by any untoward motivations.”

... just for some examples.

But yes: if the Republicans continue in power and continue to act with contempt toward basic human rights, free and fair elections, a fair and impartial judiciary, things could get worse. If people think that the powers that be have ensured that their concerns can’t be met through the official system, eventually they’ll try to get their concerns met outside of the official system.

 

[fantome profane]

It's definitely a possibility. We've already had a Republican politician shot for political reasons, and cops being gunned down in this atmosphere of out of control visceral hatred of the police being fostered by lunatic far-leftists who feel emboldened by BLM nonsense. There doesn't seem to be an end in sight or limit to it.

Not trolling you. But I do have to object to the categorization of BLM as nonsense. I think they are addressing a serious issue that had gone unaddressed far to long.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It's definitely a possibility. We've already had a Republican politician shot for political reasons, and cops being gunned down in this atmosphere of out of control visceral hatred of the police being fostered by lunatic far-leftists who feel emboldened by BLM nonsense. There doesn't seem to be an end in sight or limit to it.

How delightfully onesided.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's a wee bit disingenuous to say that Democrats are the most violent party because Republican presidents have been shot at more.

One might say it's a little disingenuous to claim
that an example offered is the entire argument.
I don't say it, but one might.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

How delightfully onesided.

Well, yeah...I wasn't trying to present all sides or whatever.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Well, yeah...I wasn't trying to present all sides or whatever.

Maybe you should try taking more than one side into account sometime.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Not trolling you. But I do have to object to the categorization of BLM as nonsense. I think they are addressing a serious issue that had gone unaddressed far to long.

I don't support BLM. I think that police brutality and killings are a problem but that BLM approaches it completely the wrong way and has only made matters worse. They have accomplished nothing positive that I can see. It has contributed to the deterioration of racial relations in the US, too (among other figures and groups, obviously).

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Maybe you should try taking more than one side into account sometime.

Forgive me for having an opinion you don't agree with.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Forgive me for having an opinion you don't agree with.

What opinion of yours did I disagree with, pray?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

What opinion of yours did I disagree with, pray?

Well, you obviously disagree with my post. I don't see you telling anyone else to be more unbiased. *shrugs*