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Dick Cheney will vote for Kamala Harris!

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Since ridding themselves of royalty in 1776, the Americans have been struggling to find some royal pomp and circumstance of their own. (Hell, the White House of JFK and Jackie was frequently likened to Camelot). They have had to settle for entertainer celebrities. She is the focus of wide-spread public interest.
I thought Taylor was a male name.
Well...she does look masculine...so...
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Trump killed hundreds of thousands, of US citizens --> Reality check please! <-- . And unlike other presidents, since The Insurrectionist kept his businesses during his term, he tried to profit DURING his presidency (although "God intervened", and his hotel businesses lost money due to the same pandemic that tRump used to slaughter American citizens). Ironic, right?
Please. We had a world wide pandemic and the US wasn't even among the top countries when it comes to percentage of population that died from COVID.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Please. We had a world wide pandemic and the US wasn't even among the top countries when it comes to percentage of population that died from COVID.

Some researchers believe that the U.S. lost maybe as many as 200,000 extra people because of they being convinced that the vaccines didn't work, and then Trump following up by endorsing hydroxychloroquine and bleach as supposed alternative cures. Even today we see many vaccine deniers even though the research overwhelming say that they do help in preventing deaths.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Some researchers believe that the U.S. lost maybe as many as 200,000 extra people because of they being convinced that the vaccines didn't work, and then Trump following up by endorsing hydroxychloroquine and bleach as supposed alternative cures. Even today we see many vaccine deniers even though the research overwhelming say that they do help in preventing deaths.
I guess that's why my friends didn't die when they got COVID. Oh wait, they got COVID before there were any vaccinations and they still didn't die, or even get very sick. And no one in their families got COVID either. And I guess getting the vaccine just a few weeks before I got COVID saved my life too. We shall never know.

By the way, even with those extra people dying, supposedly, we aren't near the top of the countries with higher rates of deaths from COVID.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I guess that's why my friends didn't die when they got COVID. Oh wait, they got COVID before there were any vaccinations and they still didn't die, or even get very sick. And no one in their families got COVID either. And I guess getting the vaccine just a few weeks before I got COVID saved my life too. We shall never know.

Are you just playing games with this? Didn't you notice that I underlined "help"?

As been said many times by many of us here, no vaccine is perfect.

By the way, even with those extra people dying, supposedly, we aren't near the top of the countries with higher rates of deaths from COVID.

Yes, and that's largely because those countries that had availability to the vaccines on the average had and still have a lower fatality rate from covid.

Here in the Detroit area, the Canadians across the river wanted these vaccines so bad that there was talk about bringing some halfway into the Detroit/Windsor Tunnel and giving it to them. However, that would have been against the law, so if never happened. This is how desperate the Canadians were.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Here in the Detroit area, the Canadians across the river wanted these vaccines so bad that there was talk about bringing some halfway into the Detroit/Windsor Tunnel and giving it to them. However, that would have been against the law, so if never happened. This is how desperate the Canadians were.
Canada had an even lower death rate than the US, or most countries for that matter.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then why were they clamoring for more vaccines?
Because they were developed first here in the States.

On a personal note, when the Pfizer vaccine was first rolled out from factory in Portage, Michigan, which is a neighboring city next to Kalamazoo where I did my undergrad work [WMU], I sat there watching these trucks going out as it was televised nationally, and I had plenty of tears in my eyes let me tell ya as I knew that this would help deal with covid, which hit our area in the Detroit area really hard.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
It didn't hit my area hardly at all. I was living in NE Texas near Tyler at the time.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Because they were developed first here in the States.

On a personal note, when the Pfizer vaccine was first rolled out from factory in Portage, Michigan, which is a neighboring city next to Kalamazoo where I did my undergrad work [WMU], I sat there watching these trucks going out as it was televised nationally, and I had plenty of tears in my eyes let me tell ya as I knew that this would help deal with covid, which hit our area in the Detroit area really hard.
Yes, I believe you've had six confirmed deaths so far.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It didn't hit my area hardly at all. I was living in NE Texas near Tyler at the time.
I know, In rural areas and small towns it tended to spread more slowly. Thje three areas in order that got hit the hardest was NYC, adjacent NJ cities, and then Detroit area.

Our local hospital had to bring in tents and trailers with AC because of all the people down with it and dying. When there's a lot of people living in a condensed area whereas people are more indoors because of the weather, it can and did spread like wildfire. Our "kids" worked like crazy to try and get my wife & I access to the vaccines because of our age, but it was a local pharmacist who got us in even though we had to drive quite a few miles in an ice storm to get there.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I know, In rural areas and small towns it tended to spread more slowly. Thje three areas in order that got hit the hardest was NYC, adjacent NJ cities, and then Detroit area.

Our local hospital had to bring in tents and trailers with AC because of all the people down with it and dying. When there's a lot of people living in a condensed area whereas people are more indoors because of the weather, it can and did spread like wildfire. Our "kids" worked like crazy to try and get my wife & I access to the vaccines because of our age, but it was a local pharmacist who got us in even though we had to drive quite a few miles in an ice storm to get there.
I just posted evidence that Detroit had six deaths total. Maybe a lot of people got it though, I don't know.

I went to a convention center to get mine and waited in a long line of cars but it was worth it, I guess. I mean, I was traveling a lot.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Please. We had a world wide pandemic and the US wasn't even among the top countries when it comes to percentage of population that died from COVID.
Actually, the U.S. had the 14th highest death rate per million population of 230 countries around the world. For example, the US death rate/million was 3,642 compared to France's 2,556 or Canada's 1,538. World-wide, the death rate/million was 899.4
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Actually, the U.S. had the 14th highest death rate per million population of 230 countries around the world. For example, the US death rate/million was 3,642 compared to France's 2,556 or Canada's 1,538. World-wide, the death rate/million was 899.4
So way under 1 percent in the US. Gotcha.
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
It's useful to have a link to the story:

Dick Cheney to back Harris for president


Liberals used to mock Cheney as sort of the evil fascist Emperor Palpatine figure behind George Bush. It is so ironic to see him endorsing the Democratic candidate in 2024, but such are the times.
Has Dick Cheney changed, or is he still the same person he was back when he was VP, in the context of what he supports & believes in politically?

Does it not occur to Democrat voters that perhaps this support by Dick Cheney of Kamala Harris means that a vote for Kamala Harris is a vote for what Dick Cheney supports & believes in politically?

Maybe Democrats ought to take this into account - either Dick Cheney has changed in the context of what he supports & believes in politically, or a vote for Kamala Harris is virtually a vote for Dick Cheney.

Dick Cheney's support for Kamala Harris is consistent with the notion that he's a DC swamp OG, Kamala Harris is a card-carrying member of the DC swamp, and the reason Dick Cheney is supporting Kamala Harris has to do with maintaining and preserving the DC swamp & nothing to do with party affiliations.
 
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