Did God Create This ???

[Azakel]

Evidence of a divine creator

Even if it is, there's no proof that's it's the god you clam to be the Divine Creator

I can literally hear you guys make these comments, before you post them, as I'm posting my comments.

Majo Majo

Bruja Bruja

 

[Sententia]

Having sex takes no intelligence. It's obsurd to say that we have created ourselves, just because our parents had sex or that our parents created us, when all they did was have an orgasm.

There are things that occur after after the orgasm which leads to a new life made of the genes from both parents. Have you heard of these things?

All children under the age of 8 go directly to the highest kingdom of God. "..to die is gain" for those who are in Christ. "Little children are alive in Christ." God is not a cruel God, but rather a JUST God, showing mercy to those who will repent of their sins. Little children need no mercy, for they are innocent until the age of 8, not knowing good from evil.

That must be an odd birthday. What do parents tell their kids when they become of age? Julia Sweeney's parents told her it was when she turned 7:

Julia Sweeney on letting go of God | Video on TED.com

 

[Draka]

I don't suppose anyone has some new viewmaster discs for FFH? Ones that don't come from the "Goddidit" show?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Yisrael,

The scriptures need no interpretation, Ephesians 3:9 clearly states that all things were created by Jesus Christ. He's no one to mess with.

LDS scripture...

3 Nephi 9: 15
Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. bI am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name.

I am a Hindu and i disagree with that.

 

[Jose Fly]

If a god created everything, then he is one mean-assed SOB....a bioterrorist monster on an epic scale....and certainly not worthy of worship.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Could someone please tell me what evolutionary advantage these fish have ???

There is a designer behind the stripes and spots on these fish, there is no way this is a product of evolutionary processess, nothing on this earth has spontaneously created itself from nothing, or is a product of evolutionary processess.

The stripes can scare of smaller fish, or even attract them for food. The fish travel in groups, therefore making it easier to identify fish in the same groups... Possibly the most obvious answer, CAMOFLAUGE! Coral is very colourful and fish are colourful, therefore when a big shark comes along they cannot see them in the coral. The stripes are probably an evolutionary feature. I will be honest with you, cannot confirm this as a fact or fact, but it seems common sense (ish)

Did you know, Rwandan silverback gorillas hair grew a thicker coat as they went higher into the mountains? Did you know giraffes necks grew longer as the food they needed was higher up?

Evolution.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

If a god created everything, then he is one mean-assed SOB....a bioterrorist monster on an epic scale....and certainly not worthy of worship.

From now on please say Christian God, i do not like the good name of God being tarnished by such.

 

[Jose Fly]

Don,

From now on please say Christian God, i do not like the good name of God being tarnished by such.

It doesn't matter which god. If it--whatever one it is--created everything then it is a horrible monster on an unprecedented scale.

 

[FFH]

If a god created everything, then he is one mean bioterrorist monster on an epic scale....and certainly not worthy of worship.

How can you say that about Christ, who is the creator and God of this world and everything in it.

How can you be mad at God for creating this ????

Bar Rafaeli (Israeli model)

I love to focus on the good that God has done.

 

[FFH]

There are things that occur after after the orgasm which leads to a new life made of the genes from both parents. Have you heard of these things?

Who causes the sperm to swim and to seek out the egg and fertilize it ??? Who causes the cells to divide and make a extremely complex human system ??? Who wrote the DNA's genetic code which tells the cells when to divide and what to divide into and become ??? From one cell both bones and flesh and all the various complex systems necessary for life are created.

So your parents wrote your genetic code, and made your bones, flesh and all your complex life sustaining internal systems ???

Christ "fearfully and wonderfully" created us in the womb.

Job 31: 15
Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb?

Isaiah 44: 2
Thus saith the Lord that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, my servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

That must be an odd birthday. What do parents tell their kids when they become of age?

When children turn 8 they are baptized by immersion, then later hands are layed upon their heads and prayer is said over them, and the gift of Holy Ghost is confirmed upon them, as a guide through life, in order to avoid sin and know the truth of all things.

Children's brains under the age of 8 are not fully developed and cannot fully comprehend right from wrong.

Mentally impaired individuals are not baptized into the LDS faith because they are innocent, not knowing right from wrong, because their brains cannot comprehend right and wrong, and will be saved in the highest degree of heaven when they die.

Children's brains are the same until they fully develope. According to Christ children's brains have fully developed by the age of 8 and they know and can comprehend the difference between right and wrong, at that time they can make a decision whether to get baptized or not and if they decide to get baptized into the LDS faith they are later given the gift of the Holy Ghost as a guide to help them to continue to distinguish between right and wrong, truth and lies.

I have the gift of the Holy Ghost which helps me discern what is truth and what is a lie.

Evolution is a lie, the earth was created in 6000 years, with 1,000 years of rest, then Adam and Eve fell and beginning of time began as we know it.

If you want an accurate Biblical time line see this link: Jewish Calendar

6000 years of creation
1000 years of rest
Adam and Eve fell
Beginning of time began as we know it
4000 years until Christ's birth
2000 years until the present

The earth is 13,000 years old.

 

[FFH]

Originally Posted by BalanceFx
There are things that occur after after the orgasm which leads to a new life made of the genes from both parents. Have you heard of these things?

So our parents created these complex systems ???? I guess they did it while you were in your mother's womb.

It takes no brains to have an orgasm.

Even the smallest of creatures can reproduce after their own kind.

We are no better than the dust of the earth and can do nothing of ourselves, except by the power of Christ given unto us.

The Nervous System
The Reproductive System
The Respiratory System
The Skeletal System
The Urinary System
The Special Senses

 

[Draka]

APB: Be on the lookout for a piece of cheese, cracker sized.

 

[Jose Fly]

FFH,

How can you say that about Christ, who is the creator and God of this world and everything in it.

If that is the case, then Christ is responsible for every parasite, pathogen, affliction, and pestilence that has caused the deaths and suffering of untold billions of people.

I realize you like to post pictures of pretty models and say, "Gosh, isn't God wonderful", but by the same token one could post pictures of babies suffering from toxoplasmosis and say, "Gosh, look how insanely sadistic God is".

 

[FFH]

FFH,

If that is the case, then Christ is responsible for every parasite, pathogen, affliction, and pestilence that has caused the deaths and suffering of untold billions of people.

I realize you like to post pictures of pretty models and say, "Gosh, isn't God wonderful", but by the same token one could post pictures of babies suffering from toxoplasmosis and say, "Gosh, look how insanely sadistic God is".

I choose to look at the good, rather than focus on the bad, however, I praise God he has created an "opposition in all things," otherwise I would know no happiness, not ever knowing misery, nor would I know pleasure, not ever knowing pain, nor would I ever recognize the sweet, without ever tasting the bitter.

I could never comprehend beauty, without ever having seen ugliness.

I would never appreciate peace, without knowing war.

I would never praise God for my health, without knowing sickness.

2 Nephi 2: 11
For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility.

 

[Jose Fly]

So your god had no choice but to create C. botulinum--the bacteria that causes botulism and produces a nerve toxin that is so toxic, a drop can kill a man? He had no choice but to create Plasmodium spp.--the parasite that causes malaria and has killed billions? He had no choice but to create Ebola, which causes the victim to virtually explode from the inside from excessive internal bleeding?

You mean your god didn't do it on purpose, but his hands were tied?

Sounds pretty impotent to me.

 

[FFH]

Agam Rodberg (Israeli model)

Agam Rodberg (untouched photo) God is capable of creating beauty himself, without the help of man

 

[FFH]

So your god had no choice but to create C. botulinum--the bacteria that causes botulism and produces a nerve toxin that is so toxic, a drop can kill a man? He had no choice but to create Plasmodium spp.--the parasite that causes malaria and has killed billions? He had no choice but to create Ebola, which causes the victim to virtually explode from the inside from excessive internal bleeding?

You mean your god didn't do it on purpose, but his hands were tied?

Sounds pretty impotent to me.

You choose to look at the bad, I choose to look at the good.

E-coli bacteria (I see good)

Verenium Corporation has just made a huge deal with BP Global | BP (Beyond Petroleum Corp) in a joint venture to harness E-coli bacteria to commercially produce a new biofuel made from waste materials, which there seems to be an endless supply of in this world.

Fuel from garbage, clean burning fuel with no harmful exhaust.

Verenium Commissions Louisiana Cellulosic Ethanol Plant: $1.34 ...
Verenium Begins Commissioning of Nation's First Cellulosic Ethanol Demonstration -Scale ... modified the E. coli—which could use both 5- and 6-carbon sugars, ...

Verenium Opens Cellulosic Ethanol Demo Plant - GoodCleanTech

 

[Jose Fly]

FFH,

You choose to look at the bad, I choose to look at the good.

Not at all. I see both. Do you not see the terrible, horrible, nasty things that exist in our world?

E-coli bacteria (I see good)

That's great, but it completely ignores the examples I provided earlier. Where's the good in ebola? Botulism? Toxoplasmosis? Malaria?

Your god made them according to you.

 

[FFH]

FFH,

Not at all. I see both. Do you not see the terrible, horrible, nasty things that exist in our world?

Of course, these are the conditions of this world that we agreed upon before coming to earth.

That's great, but it completely ignores the examples I provided earlier. Where's the good in ebola? Botulism? Toxoplasmosis? Malaria?

If it were not for an opposing force to all that is good in this world there would not be any eternal progression of man towards becoming like God in every way possible.

Your god made them according to you.

Yes, of this I have no doubts. I've never had a doubt about it in my life, the Lord "reminded" me of his existance and of so many other eternal truths.

My parents rarely discussed religion in the home, we just went to church. Religion was oddly never really discussed. What I learned what I needed to know about my faith from personal study.

No one forced it upon me and I could have easily rejected my faith and be done with it, but I chose otherwise, because I saw the infinite worth of my faith and that I would be giving up what I wanted.

I want what God has and is.

 

[Draka]

You choose to look at the bad, I choose to look at the good.

No, you choose to ignore the bad. You see what you want to see. You believe you already have the answer and so try to concoct evidence to support it instead of looking at evidence to find an answer.

Let me ask you some things FFH. Why is it beyond the realm of possibility that god used evolution as the means to create the diversity of species? Why is it not possible for god to "create" the rules of nature and science in order to produce that which god desires? Why is it not possible for it to be considered that god wanted us to biologically develop in such a way? Through evolution and DNA code? Is it so important for you to believe that god "painted" your face personally? Is your self esteem so low that you have to believe that god personally sculpted you to feel "special"?

Please do not anser with any bible quotes. I want you to actually THINK about all those questions. Internalize them a bit. Don't just rattle off some "feel good scripture" at me. REALLY answer them. I do not expect nor want an immediate answer...for that means you really didn't ponder on them. Go ponder for a bit then get back to us.