it only takes us where you don't want it to
i can say the same about you
I think I explained and gave a proof with a verse in the same chapter.
I'll make it easier for you:
If the meaning intended was that Jesus was "in accord" with God, He would have said:
"we all be one in You", not "they all be one in us"
this is the best argument you have presented thus far...
but you have to think about the implications of what jesus is saying in his prayer... it's the
pink elephant i beleive you don't want to acknowledge...
6
I have revealed
you[a] to those whom
you gave
me out of the world.7 They were
yours;
you gave them to
me and they have obeyed
your word.
Now they know that everything
you have given
me comes from
you.
i think you get the picture by now...my thumb is cramping
8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me...10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of
your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave meNone has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
13 I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
Jesus Prays for All Believers
20 My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one 23 I in them and you in meso that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
24 Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.
25 Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you[e] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.
is he talking to another being other than himself or is he talking to himself?
from what i gather here is, he's talking to another through faith...
while his entire prayer is defeating the idea he is god...
