janesix
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Then it isn't spontaneous , is it?
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Do You Believe In God, Why? Don't You Believe In God, Why?
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janesix
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I said nothing of their specialties. I know much more about MY specialty, which is the order of the universe. In fact, mush of scientific "knowledge" is plain wrong. And I know much more about the truth of it.
Audie
Veteran Member
Not sure if this is a serious question but
I will treat it as such.
First is the issue of, is there a god?
If so then he would have given us energy, natter, and the laws governing them..weak force, strong force, gravity, math, etc and blah.
After that, one must wonder, does God then sit back and let things do their stuff?
Does gravity attract, or does he have to kind of push things?
Is it totally hands off, or does he tweak and
meddle and otherwise variously intervene,
or does he direct the path if every ele tron etc in the universe or multiverse?
Etc.
Seems to me that a crystal or mountain or waterfall forms spontaneously, operating by
physical principles operating through matter and energy.
Or, "build themselves". No creator who decided how he wanted the waterfall to look.
Its distinctly different from a person building a
houee or car.
Audie
Veteran Member
Please say what you think spontaneous means.
Audie
Veteran Member
janesix
Active Member
Not really self taught. Taught by the Universe. It leads me to videos, books, articles to read, through synchronicities, intuition, etc. Then I spend time processing consciously and unconsciously. When I suddenly "figure out" something, I get rewarded with a flow of prana that is pleasant. When I am on the wrong track I feel horribly unbalanced.
janesix
Active Member
Spontaneous means to me, without a process that is mechanical. Magic more or less.
Audie
Veteran Member
Ok so nothing happens without either magic or intelligent intent.
So, when a crystal forms, God has to plan it
and push every molecule into place?
Your data ...?
For nomadic hunter-gatherers distinguishing good terrain from bad is useful, just as distinguishing healthful food from unhealthful or hot objects from cold. Senses are useful, and are selected for.
Productive terrain looks beautiful, healthful food tastes good, hot rocks hurt.
The order of the universe is nothing more than the laws of physics. So any physicist would know more than you about it.
Um, yes, in fact, it is. It happens without outside intervention.
janesix
Active Member
Nope. They know nothing of the underlying geometry and number, or harmony/polarity/gender/fractal nature etc.
Audie
Veteran Member
What did you learn about Noah's ark?
janesix
Active Member
Prove it.
I would bet they know far more about all of these than you do.
janesix
Active Member
Just what I've read in the bible. I haven't studied or thought about Noah's ark in depth. It probably has an esoteric meaning, like most bible stories.
Put the components together and sit back and watch.
janesix
Active Member
I doubt it. They believe nonsense such as the big bang and relativity
So nothing with the Epic of Gilgamesh?
Because the evidence shows them to be true.