Do You Believe In God, Why? Don't You Believe In God, Why?

[Subduction Zone]

All laws require a lawgiver. God is against sin because sins involve confusion.

I believe that Jesus is God, because of the love that he had for his creation in dying for our sins. We all sin. We are not perfect. Jesus dying for us was like a lawyer taking the place of a criminal who committed a crime.

This is an equivocation fallacy on your part. The laws of nature are descriptive not proscriptive. You are using a word with two different meanings and applying one of them in both cases. That is a very bad mistake on your part.

 

[Valjean]

The moral laws in the Bible are givens about respecting oneself and others. I believe that in the end times, people will say what's wrong is right and what's right is wrong. Not lying, stealing, living together before marriage, are common sense moral rules that people know even without the Bible.

You've never studied anthropology, have you?

 

[Audie]

It shows that there is a model, or ideal, or template. That they didn't evolve randomly through Darwinian evolution

Oh dear.
I asked for data and you give
me a platonic ideal.

Here is a little clue. Do you think fish and dolphins have a similar shape because of some mystical ideal, or because that form works so well?

This is important, give it a minutes thought.

 

[Polymath257]

Living together before marriage takes away from the sacredness and meaning of marriage. People who live together before marriage are also more likely to be divorced.

Lying and stealing are not respectful of oneself and others.

I believe that having a relationship with God, not religion and pastors and priests, shows us that certain behaviors are not healthy.

And I think that our behaviors towards other people is what determines whether an action is moral or not.

 

[Skywalker]

Huh?
All species not in Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium are evolving. Every step is transitional; every species intermediate.
You are transitional. Each step, each organism, is fully formed.

How would one distinguish a "fully formed" organism from a not-fully-formed one, my intermediate friend?

I am not transitional. I don't have intermediate organs and I never did. A non fully formed organism would have half a heart.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Waterfalls and crystals came form materials that either came from God, or the singularity. Even believers in the big bang doubt that a singularity is what created everything.

The singularity is not a designer. Again, this appears to be a failed semantics argument. Design implies a purpose and the universe does not have a purpose in the sense that you imply that it does.

 

[Polymath257]

I am not transitional. I don't have intermediate organs and I never did. A non fully formed organism would have half a heart.

Which is not what evolution claims would ever be the case.

Your understanding of what a transitional organism would be is wrong.

 

[Skywalker]

This is an equivocation fallacy on your part. The laws of nature are descriptive not proscriptive. You are using a word with two different meanings and applying one of them in both cases. That is a very bad mistake on your part.

The laws of existence are descriptive but they still make us aware that certain things are order and certain things are confusion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I am not transitional. I don't have intermediate organs and I never did. A non fully formed organism would have half a heart.

I am so sorry that you are not going to have any children.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The laws of existence are descriptive but they still make us aware that certain things are order and certain things are confusion.

Let's drop the word salad.

 

[Skywalker]

You've never studied anthropology, have you?

Even tribes in New Guinea know that adultery is wrong. Anthropologists have recorded it.

 

[Skywalker]

The singularity is not a designer. Again, this appears to be a failed semantics argument. Design implies a purpose and the universe does not have a purpose in the sense that you imply that it does.

How could the materials that lead to the formation of crystals even exist, without design and purpose?

 

[Audie]

Not good enough. And it hasn't been proven at all. Where is the proof for that? Sounds like a made up story.

People who wouldst claim to know so much about science should be careful not to betray
their ignorance by asking for proof in matters of science.

 

[Polymath257]

Waterfalls and crystals came form materials that either came from God, or the singularity. Even believers in the big bang doubt that a singularity is what created everything.

The term 'singularity' simply means that the laws describing the situation have some aspect that is undefined. It isn't an object. It isn't an event. It isn't in a place. It is a description of where we have to do more work to see what is going on.

Most likely, the 'singularity' that shows up in General relativity will disappear with a quantum theory of gravity.

 

[Audie]

I am not transitional. I don't have intermediate organs and I never did. A non fully formed organism would have half a heart.

Finally a creationist gives an example of
what a non fully formed creature would be like.

 

[Skywalker]

Which is not what evolution claims would ever be the case.

Your understanding of what a transitional organism would be is wrong.

Wouldn't a transitional organism by definition have intermediate organs?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How could the materials that lead to the formation of crystals even exist, without design and purpose?

Silly question. Why do you think that there is a need for design and purpose? Your question really makes no sense as asked.

 

[Skywalker]

I am so sorry that you are not going to have any children.

What does people having children have to do with there being intermediate organs?

 

[Polymath257]

Canonical numbers are the sets of numbers that are used to create our balanced, harmonic universe. They are embedded into the geometry of the universe. The "surface" numbers, those which are the most obvious, come in two sets that interact. The first, nearly unnoticeable, is the "twos" or doubling, with 12 being the most important. Then there are the "threes", starting with the cubed three, or 27. This number is then doubled in a progression, 27, 54, 108, 216, 432, 864 and beyond. These most obvious numbers are embedded in geometry, the solar system, etc. They are found in the platonic solids (example, the total number of angles in the cube is 2160) and the same number is found in the diameter of the moon(2160 miles). Also in the nautical miles of the Earth's circumference (216, 000) And again in an age of precession of the equinoxes (2160 years). These numbers are found in holy texts, beliefs and rituals, showing the ancients had at least some knowledge of the holy canon.

Then it gets deeper and more complicated, with special numbers like the square roots of 2, 3 and 5, phi, pi, and the trinity of 33-153-273. These numbers begin to show how they relate to life. If you want more, I will go on.

Looks to me like someone is being mislead by the law of small numbers. Sorry, but numerology is largely nonsense.

 

[Polymath257]

What does people having children have to do with there being intermediate organs?

If you had children, your organs would be intermediate between those of your parents and those of your children.