Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

[an anarchist]

Most of motivational quotes & speeches can be traced back to the bible on way or another

I think this is rather a weak argument but let’s explore it.

The claim that most motivational quotes trace back to the Bible overlooks the diverse sources of motivational thought.

1. Philosophical Traditions: Ideas from Greek, Roman, and Eastern philosophies—like Stoicism, Confucianism, and Taoism—offer wisdom on resilience, balance, and discipline, independent of the Bible.

2. The Bible’s Influences: The Bible itself drew from earlier cultures like Mesopotamia and Babylon. Many of its teachings on justice and morality existed in texts like the Code of Hammurabi and the Epic of Gilgamesh.

3. Non-Western Traditions: Cultures like Buddhism and indigenous traditions offer motivational teachings on inner peace and harmony, separate from biblical influence.

Motivational thought is shaped by a variety of traditions, not just the Bible.

 

[InChrist]

I believe the whole Bible is not from God. Some people wrote parts that is wrong about God. God has never asked us humans to kill each other. God is against killing innocent people
Many parts of the Bible is from God, but some parts of the Bible is not from God
The parts that is loving and just is from God.

What do you believe about the Bible?

I believe the Bible is God’s Word; God inspired human authors to write the biblical scriptures.

 

[Audie]

Oh, there’s a great deal more you can do.
Ask questions, study, think, open your mind, say.

Was there really a flood?
Of course not, test it ten thousand ways, it fails them all.
Earth created in a 6 day poof? Sorta poetic but not a word of truth.
Adam and Eve? No.

With that zero- credibility start a person might- just might- ask
himself what kind of “Gods word” this book holds.

Some outside reading might include learning about confirmation bias, and intellectual integrity.

 

[Audie]

I think this is rather a weak argument but let’s explore it.

The claim that most motivational quotes trace back to the Bible overlooks the diverse sources of motivational thought.

1. Philosophical Traditions: Ideas from Greek, Roman, and Eastern philosophies—like Stoicism, Confucianism, and Taoism—offer wisdom on resilience, balance, and discipline, independent of the Bible.

2. The Bible’s Influences: The Bible itself drew from earlier cultures like Mesopotamia and Babylon. Many of its teachings on justice and morality existed in texts like the Code of Hammurabi and the Epic of Gilgamesh.

3. Non-Western Traditions: Cultures like Buddhism and indigenous traditions offer motivational teachings on inner peace and harmony, separate from biblical influence.

Motivational thought is shaped by a variety of traditions, not just the Bible.

Seriously, like China has no traditions.

 

[Audie]

I believe the Bible is God’s Word; God inspired human authors to write the biblical scriptures.

So why did this god inspire people to write so
many falsehoods?

 

[Tinkerpeach]

And you know exactly what it means?

Nope.

Much of it can be interpreted differently yet the main points are extremely clear which shows us the parts God considers the most important.

All of us are born with sin or that salvation through Christ are very clear while issues like the importance of baptism are not.

 

[Audie]

Nope.

Much of it can be interpreted differently yet the main points are extremely clear which shows us the parts God considers the most important.

All of us are born with sin or that salvation through Christ are very clear while issues like the importance of baptism are not.

Do you consider it a main point whether or not god is a mass murderer?

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Do you consider it a main point whether or not god is a mass murderer?

Murder is not possible for God, that is a human concept.

Are you a mass murderer when you spray an ant hill with raid and kill them by the thousands?

We are more related to ants than we are to God.

 

[Audie]

Murder is not possible for God, that is a human concept.

Are you a mass murderer when you spray an ant hill with raid and kill them by the thousands?

We are more related to ants than we are to God.

Define murder to your satisfaction but you’ve answered the question.

You are both saying “ God so loves…” and we are of
less consequence than ants.

And in falsely believing there was a flood, you are
casually describing your “god“ as the perp of a mass atrocity.

Zero respect or education in that.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

So why did this god inspire people to write so
many falsehoods?

According to the Bible, the Holy Spirit dwells within the people who believe in Jesus (Ephesians 1:13–14; 4:30), not only corroborating to them that they belong to God and are saved (Romans 8:15–17; 10:9–13; 1 Corinthians 12:13), but also endowing them with some spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:4-11) and spiritual discernment to correctly understand the Bible (1 Corinthians 2:14). However, if the Holy Spirit resides within all of the followers of Jesus and gives them spiritual discernment to correctly understand the Bible, then wouldn't Christians from all over the world agree on a single interpretation of the Bible?

In my opinion, if all Christians had this spiritual discernment to correctly understand the Bible, then the Catholic Bible (with a 73-book canon), the Greek Orthodox Bible (with a 79-book canon), and the plethora of various Protestant Bible translations (with a 66-book canon) would not exist. There would be a single correct interpretation of the Bible and one unified universal Christian Church. However, this is clearly not how it is within Christianity because it is vastly divided into Messianic Jews, Anglicans, Catholics, Orthodox (Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox), and a vast variety of Protestants: Baptist (First Baptist, Second Baptist, Southern Baptist, Reformed Baptist, Primitive Baptist, Anabaptist, Freewill Baptist), Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Mennonite, Church of Christ, Presbyterian, Seventh-day Adventist, Non-Denominational, and hundreds of other Protestant churches.

Many Christians have the perpetual habit of accusing other Christians of not being "true Christians," and this accusation is as old as Christianity itself (1 Corinthians 1:10–17). The problem I have with Christians accusing other Christians of not being true followers of Jesus is that they can never agree on what the Bible truly says, and they constantly argue, insult, and fight one another about what they believe the Bible teaches. They accuse one another of not being "true Christians" and argue about how to correctly interpret the Bible. If you ask the same theological question to a broad group of Christians, you will receive different answers. They will all cite the Bible in an attempt to defend their answers, even though their answers are different and contradictory.

They often claim that they want unbelievers to be saved, yet they can't even agree on the Bible's definition of salvation, which is a key tenet of Christianity. For example, Calvinism vs. Arminianism is an ongoing debate among them. Some of them believe that salvation is unconditional, while others do not. And yet other Christians believe that speaking in tongues or baptism are required for salvation. Most Christians claim to have "spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit," which enables them to properly understand the Bible. However, they have completely different scriptural interpretations that contradict one another and adhere to church doctrines that contradict each other. They use the Bible to defend their version of Christianity, but it is clear that their beliefs, as well as their interpretations and doctrines about salvation are contradictory. How can they expect us to believe them when they can't even agree?

Questions about how to properly baptize believers (fully immersed in water or sprinkled with water), whether it is biblical for women to be pastors, and about the alleged end times (pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, post-tribulation, and the rapture of Christians) would elicit the same level of derision from Christians. Some churches claim to be the "true church, implying that Christians in other churches have incorrect theology and biblical interpretations. They even bicker and debate with one another about whether Jesus' mother remained a virgin after giving birth to him and if she had further children after him.

Ironically, they all believe that they are correct about their beliefs and everyone else (including other Christians) is wrong about theirs, but then they have the audacity to claim that the Bible is the word of God and Christianity is the only true religion in the world. In my opinion, there's no reason to believe any of them. I think it's unreasonable for any Christian to claim that their biblical interpretation and theology are correct while insisting that other Christians are wrong, that the Bible is divinely inspired, and that Christianity is the only true religion in the world. It is also irrational, in my opinion, that Christians expect non-Christians to accept the Bible as divinely inspired and the final authority on moral issues, yet they can't agree on what the Bible actually says.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Define murder to your satisfaction but you’ve answered the question.

You are both saying “ God so loves…” and we are of
less consequence than ants.

And in falsely believing there was a flood, you are
casually describing your “god“ as the perp of a mass atrocity.

Zero respect or education in that.

Murder and killing are two different things clearly defined in the Bible.

Murder is the taking of life without cause but God did what He did for a reason.

“God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day. If [man] does not turn back, He will sharpen His sword; He bends His bow and makes it ready” (Psalm 7:11-12).

Also nowhere in the Bible will you find God taking an innocent life since compared to His holiness all are sinners and not worthy of redemption. (Kinda why we needed the sacrifice of Christ).

God takes the lives of the wicked to prevent others from succumbing to the sins which led to the destruction of those people.

God has just cause to wipe our entire species out but the fact He hasn’t and sacrificed His son so that we may live is proof of His mercy and love for us.

 

[Audie]

According to the Bible, the Holy Spirit dwells within the people who believe in Jesus (Ephesians 1:13–14; 4:30), not only corroborating to them that they belong to God and are saved (Romans 8:15–17; 10:9–13; 1 Corinthians 12:13), but also endowing them with some spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12:4-11) and spiritual discernment to correctly understand the Bible (1 Corinthians 2:14). However, if the Holy Spirit resides within all of the followers of Jesus and gives them spiritual discernment to correctly understand the Bible, then wouldn't Christians from all over the world agree on a single interpretation of the Bible?

In my opinion, if all Christians had this spiritual discernment to correctly understand the Bible, then the Catholic Bible (with a 73-book canon), the Greek Orthodox Bible (with a 79-book canon), and the plethora of various Protestant Bible translations (with a 66-book canon) would not exist. There would be a single correct interpretation of the Bible and one unified universal Christian Church. However, this is clearly not how it is within Christianity because it is vastly divided into Messianic Jews, Anglicans, Catholics, Orthodox (Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Ethiopian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox), and a vast variety of Protestants: Baptist (First Baptist, Second Baptist, Southern Baptist, Reformed Baptist, Primitive Baptist, Anabaptist, Freewill Baptist), Methodist, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Mennonite, Church of Christ, Presbyterian, Seventh-day Adventist, Non-Denominational, and hundreds of other Protestant churches.

Many Christians have the perpetual habit of accusing other Christians of not being "true Christians," and this accusation is as old as Christianity itself (1 Corinthians 1:10–17). The problem I have with Christians accusing other Christians of not being true followers of Jesus is that they can never agree on what the Bible truly says, and they constantly argue, insult, and fight one another about what they believe the Bible teaches. They accuse one another of not being "true Christians" and argue about how to correctly interpret the Bible. If you ask the same theological question to a broad group of Christians, you will receive different answers. They will all cite the Bible in an attempt to defend their answers, even though their answers are different and contradictory.

They often claim that they want unbelievers to be saved, yet they can't even agree on the Bible's definition of salvation, which is a key tenet of Christianity. For example, Calvinism vs. Arminianism is an ongoing debate among them. Some of them believe that salvation is unconditional, while others do not. And yet other Christians believe that speaking in tongues or baptism are required for salvation. Most Christians claim to have "spiritual discernment from the Holy Spirit," which enables them to properly understand the Bible. However, they have completely different scriptural interpretations that contradict one another and adhere to church doctrines that contradict each other. They use the Bible to defend their version of Christianity, but it is clear that their beliefs, as well as their interpretations and doctrines about salvation are contradictory. How can they expect us to believe them when they can't even agree?

Questions about how to properly baptize believers (fully immersed in water or sprinkled with water), whether it is biblical for women to be pastors, and about the alleged end times (pre-tribulation, mid-tribulation, post-tribulation, and the rapture of Christians) would elicit the same level of derision from Christians. Some churches claim to be the "true church, implying that Christians in other churches have incorrect theology and biblical interpretations. They even bicker and debate with one another about whether Jesus' mother remained a virgin after giving birth to him and if she had further children after him.

Ironically, they all believe that they are correct about their beliefs and everyone else (including other Christians) is wrong about theirs, but then they have the audacity to claim that the Bible is the word of God and Christianity is the only true religion in the world. In my opinion, there's no reason to believe any of them. I think it's unreasonable for any Christian to claim that their biblical interpretation and theology are correct while insisting that other Christians are wrong, that the Bible is divinely inspired, and that Christianity is the only true religion in the world. It is also irrational, in my opinion, that Christians expect non-Christians to accept the Bible as divinely inspired and the final authority on moral issues, yet they can't agree on what the Bible actually says.

It’s why I don’t believe any of them.

 

[Audie]

Murder and killing are two different things clearly defined in the Bible.

Murder is the taking of life without cause but God did what He did for a reason.

“God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day. If [man] does not turn back, He will sharpen His sword; He bends His bow and makes it ready” (Psalm 7:11-12).

Also nowhere in the Bible will you find God taking an innocent life since compared to His holiness all are sinners and not worthy of redemption. (Kinda why we needed the sacrifice of Christ).

God takes the lives of the wicked to prevent others from succumbing to the sins which led to the destruction of those people.

God has just cause to wipe our entire species out but the fact He hasn’t and sacrificed His son so that we may live is proof of His mercy and love for us.

Aside from the “ might makes right” which was dealt with predictably,
you dodged the fact of your unjust accusation against the “ god” you supposedly respect.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Aside from the “ might makes right” which was dealt with predictably,
you dodged the fact of your unjust accusation against the “ god” you supposedly respect.

Let us look at the Abrahamic God from a more accurate scriptural perspective, which is one that Christians often omit from their "God is love" sermons.

According to the Bible, God has infinite power (Psalm 147:5; Job 42:2; Daniel 2:21), infinite knowledge (Psalm 139:1–6; Isaiah 46:9–10; 1 John 3:20), and is present everywhere simultaneously (Psalm 139:7–10; Isaiah 40:12; Colossians 1:17). Having established these biblical claims about God's divine attributes, I will continue with my viewpoint. In my opinion, God is evil because, based on these scriptures, he created Adam and Eve knowing that they would disobey him after using the serpent to purposely tempt them with a forbidden fruit. According to the creation story, God not only punished Adam and Eve for their disobedience (which he knew would happen), but he also punished the serpent for doing what he knew it would do. But he didn't stop there; he punished and unjustly cursed the rest of humanity with a sinful nature for the sin of Adam and Eve, which the rest of humanity had no control over. He then devised a wicked plan to murder his own son by crucifying him in order to atone for his initial sin of creating humanity, knowing that they would become corrupt.

Furthermore, if God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, as the Bible claims, then surely he would know better than to create Adam and Eve and the rest of mankind, knowing that he would later regret creating humanity and repopulate the planet with the same morally flawed humans that he just annihilated in a global flood. According to Genesis 6:6, he regretted creating humanity as well as every animal, every creature that creeps on the ground, and the birds of the air. Thus, he carried out his plan to annihilate humanity in a global flood, with the exception of Noah and his family (Genesis 6:7-8).

In accordance with these scriptures, it is my opinion that God is morally depraved (sinful, evil, sadistic) to first create Adam and Eve knowing that they would disobey him and that he would punish them for their disobedience; second, he punished and cursed Satan (the serpent), despite using Satan to carry out his nefarious plan to tempt Adam and Eve into disobeying him; third, punish and curse the rest of humanity with a sinful nature because of Adam and Eve's disobedience against him, despite the fact that the rest of humanity had nothing to do with it; and finally, he brutally tortured and killed his own son to "redeem" humanity for behaving exactly the way he knew they would behave before he created Adam and Eve. I think that is truly evil (Isaiah 45:7).

I like this quote by Richard Dawkins: "The god of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." After reading the Bible numerous times, I believe that he has accurately described the biblical God. He is portrayed as a loving and merciful heavenly father, but I think of him as being far worse than an abusive parent. Speaking as a former Christian, I think that he is the perfect example of a narcissistic and abusive father who only expresses his warped sense of love to his children whenever they do or say precisely what he wants them to do or say. His frightened children think that if they don't provoke him, then he won't hurt them, but they're not entirely sure because of his violent temper and lashes out when he becomes angry. Therefore, disobeying and upsetting him will result in punishment and hell to pay. This isn't a healthy relationship built on unconditional love, trust, and respect, but rather a toxic relationship based on fear and mistrust.

 

[Audie]

Let us look at the Abrahamic God from a more accurate scriptural perspective, which is one that Christians often omit from their "God is love" sermons.

According to the Bible, God has infinite power (Psalm 147:5; Job 42:2; Daniel 2:21), infinite knowledge (Psalm 139:1–6; Isaiah 46:9–10; 1 John 3:20), and is present everywhere simultaneously (Psalm 139:7–10; Isaiah 40:12; Colossians 1:17). Having established these biblical claims about God's divine attributes, I will continue with my viewpoint. In my opinion, God is evil because, based on these scriptures, he created Adam and Eve knowing that they would disobey him after using the serpent to purposely tempt them with a forbidden fruit. According to the creation story, God not only punished Adam and Eve for their disobedience (which he knew would happen), but he also punished the serpent for doing what he knew it would do. But he didn't stop there; he punished and unjustly cursed the rest of humanity with a sinful nature for the sin of Adam and Eve, which the rest of humanity had no control over. He then devised a wicked plan to murder his own son by crucifying him in order to atone for his initial sin of creating humanity, knowing that they would become corrupt.

Furthermore, if God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, as the Bible claims, then surely he would know better than to create Adam and Eve and the rest of mankind, knowing that he would later regret creating humanity and repopulate the planet with the same morally flawed humans that he just annihilated in a global flood. According to Genesis 6:6, he regretted creating humanity as well as every animal, every creature that creeps on the ground, and the birds of the air. Thus, he carried out his plan to annihilate humanity in a global flood, with the exception of Noah and his family (Genesis 6:7-8).

In accordance with these scriptures, it is my opinion that God is morally depraved (sinful, evil, sadistic) to first create Adam and Eve knowing that they would disobey him and that he would punish them for their disobedience; second, he punished and cursed Satan (the serpent), despite using Satan to carry out his nefarious plan to tempt Adam and Eve into disobeying him; third, punish and curse the rest of humanity with a sinful nature because of Adam and Eve's disobedience against him, despite the fact that the rest of humanity had nothing to do with it; and finally, he brutally tortured and killed his own son to "redeem" humanity for behaving exactly the way he knew they would behave before he created Adam and Eve. I think that is truly evil (Isaiah 45:7).

I like this quote by Richard Dawkins: "The god of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." After reading the Bible numerous times, I believe that he has accurately described the biblical God. He is portrayed as a loving and merciful heavenly father, but I think of him as being far worse than an abusive parent. Speaking as a former Christian, I think that he is the perfect example of a narcissistic and abusive father who only expresses his warped sense of love to his children whenever they do or say precisely what he wants them to do or say. His frightened children think that if they don't provoke him, then he won't hurt them, but they're not entirely sure because of his violent temper and lashes out when he becomes angry. Therefore, disobeying and upsetting him will result in punishment and hell to pay. This isn't a healthy relationship built on unconditional love, trust, and respect, but rather a toxic relationship based on fear and mistrust.

That is how it reads to me.

it’s no particular surprise it has not caught in in China.

 

[InChrist]

So why did this god inspire people to write so
many falsehoods?

You say there are falsehoods. I don’t agree. I believe God’s word is truth.

 

[Audie]

You say there are falsehoods. I don’t agree. I believe God’s word is truth.

There was no flood, but your “ inspired” book pretends there was.

There might be a gof, it might have true words but there’s
not a chance you know that or what it is or means.


Your chosen beliefs are not the same as “ truth”.
Maybe you think you are infallible at this discernment business?

Here’s a hint-
You aren’t.

 

[paarsurrey]

Do you believe the Bible is God's word?

It is not even word of (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, what to speak of its being Word of One- G-d, right, please?

Kindly view One G-d's judgement regarding both, Jews and Christian, groups:-

2:41
یٰبَنِیۡۤ اِسۡرَآءِیۡلَ اذۡکُرُوۡا نِعۡمَتِیَ الَّتِیۡۤ اَنۡعَمۡتُ عَلَیۡکُمۡ وَاَوۡفُوۡا بِعَہۡدِیۡۤ اُوۡفِ بِعَہۡدِکُمۡ ۚ وَاِیَّایَ فَارۡہَبُوۡنِ ﴿۴۱
O children of Israel! remember My favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your covenant with Me, I will fulfil My covenant with you, and Me alone should you fear.
2:42
وَاٰمِنُوۡا بِمَاۤ اَنۡزَلۡتُ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَکُمۡ وَلَا تَکُوۡنُوۡۤا اَوَّلَ کَافِرٍۭ بِہٖ ۪ وَلَا تَشۡتَرُوۡا بِاٰیٰتِیۡ ثَمَنًا قَلِیۡلًا ۫ وَّاِیَّایَ فَاتَّقُوۡنِ ﴿۴۲
And believe in what I have sent down which fulfils that which is with you, and be not the first to disbelieve therein, and barter not My Signs for a paltry price, and take protection in Me alone.
2:43
وَلَا تَلۡبِسُوا الۡحَقَّ بِالۡبَاطِلِ وَتَکۡتُمُوا الۡحَقَّ وَاَنۡتُمۡ تَعۡلَمُوۡنَ ﴿۴۳
And confound not truth with falsehood nor hide the truth, knowingly.

Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search

In Arabic, Chinese, English, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Urdu.

www.alislam.org

Original Arabic narration/text from Muhammad's time together with its English translation rendered by Maulawi Sher Ali, is given above ^.

Right?

Regards

 

[Kathryn]

I believe that God is 100 percent just and 100 percent holy so even parts of the bible that I don't understand are probably covered by this, since I am a flawed human being.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

It’s why I don’t believe any of them.

Well that’s like discussing the best team in the NFL with someone who doesn’t watch football.