Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?

[Shad]

Let me explain :Formed/designed.

1-Formed by nature forces.
2-designed by God/human/other creature.

This is just sloppy English and incorrect usage, which I pointed out already. Have you heard of the word "or"? Maybe use it...

It is also false as atomic decay is uncaused, ie there is no force of natural that forms atomic decay.

 

[Godobeyer]

This is just sloppy English and incorrect usage, which I pointed out already. Have you heard of the word "or"? Maybe use it...

Sorry ,It's my bad to used "/" instead of "or"

 

[Godobeyer]

Yeah, that's just artwork. Listen to the words of the video. And anyway, it's only one Hindu view, Hindus are massively varied.

I listen to you too .

God is Creator.

Now, this wasn't very comprehensible. I think maybe we're stuck on the meaning on the word imagination. In this context, the word imagination basically means making things up, inventing ideas, like a child playing pretend. I don't think this is what you mean by it, but I don't know what it is you actually mean.

When I said :

Imagination:is help to reach my ideas,I do believe we theist had that kind of thinking,atheists don't have.

You said :

Please stop including me in your anti-scientific worldview - just because I'm a theist doesn't mean I reject science in favour of imagination, which is what you admit to here.

Imagination about what, I was talking about ?

I suspect that you knew what I meant. I mean about creation, I never mentionned to evolution.

http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...-designed-created.192354/page-20#post-4952865

http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...-designed-created.192354/page-23#post-4953884

 

[Shad]

Sorry ,It's my bad to used "/" instead of "or"

I hope you can understand how confusing it can be when you symbols that have a certain meaning but you do not use it in this way. Think of a symbol in Arabic that has a certain meaning but a non-Arabic speaker uses it to mean the opposite of this meaning. Math is another example. Most people treat + as addition. However if I used it as subtraction instead it would be very confusing

 

[Kirran]

I listen to you too .

God is Creator.

Right, I also think so - Creation as an act of God occurs in every moment as God takes on form. And does not occur, because there can be no creation if all is God.

Imagination about what, I was talking about ?

I suspect that you knew what I meant. I mean about creation, I never mentionned to evolution.

http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...-designed-created.192354/page-20#post-4952865

http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...-designed-created.192354/page-23#post-4953884

Yes, I see, this is due to a misunderstanding of the word 'imagination'. When you said that 'imagination helps you reach your ideas' this sounds in English like you're saying 'I am just making things up'. That's what imagination means in this context. You meant something different?

 

[Shad]

Sorry ,It's my bad to used "/" instead of "or"

Let me explain :Formed/designed.

1-Formed by nature forces.
2-designed by God/human/other creature.

This is inductive logic. We have not discovered everything in the universe so can only use examples we know of to create a probability based, not certainty (deductive), conclusion. It is also wrong as atomic decay is uncaused.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

An interesting subject, no doubt. He was an Iranian who had found his way to being a Manichaean. He said that he was Manichaean before he'd heard of Manichaeanism, and thinks he might have carried it with him from a previous life.

V interesting! Thank you!

 

[Godobeyer]

Right, I also think so - Creation as an act of God occurs in every moment as God takes on form. And does not occur, because there can be no creation if all is God.

Good !
But how about abiogenesis theory as origin of life.

Yes, I see, this is due to a misunderstanding of the word 'imagination'. When you said that 'imagination helps you reach your ideas' this sounds in English like you're saying 'I am just making things up'. That's what imagination means in this context. You meant something different?

That's what made upset,because I explained it many times in links I posted before you quoted my post !

So do you agree with my point of "imagination"?

 

[Kirran]

Good !
But how about abiogenesis theory as origin of life.

Yeah, abiogenesis refers to the origins of life as a chemical reaction. What about it?

That's what made upset,because I explained it many times in links I posted before you quoted my post !

So do you agree with my point of "imagination"?

What you've said hasn't made enough sense for me to know what that point is. As soon as I understand what your point is, I can tell you if I agree.

 

[Godobeyer]

I hope you can understand how confusing it can be when you symbols that have a certain meaning but you do not use it in this way. Think of a symbol in Arabic that has a certain meaning but a non-Arabic speaker uses it to mean the opposite of this meaning. Math is another example. Most people treat + as addition. However if I used it as subtraction instead it would be very confusing

I know VS mean opposite.
I thought / is mean "or".

I used it to shorten space in title and question of poll.

 

[Godobeyer]

Yeah, abiogenesis refers to the origins of life as a chemical reaction. What about it?

So all creation is came from one cell ?

What you've said hasn't made enough sense for me to know what that point is. As soon as I understand what your point is, I can tell you if I agree.

Do you agree with my point about theists had more imagination about God's creation(origin of life) than atheists.

 

[Kirran]

So all creation is came from one cell ?

Why are you limiting creation to living things? All things are constantly being created. Right now the whole universe is created. In every moment, the universe is created. Yeah, all living things descend from one single-celled organism, or perhaps from a pre-cellular construct, but that's such a small part of creation. Only out of arrogance do we accord it such importance.

Do you agree with my point about theists had more imagination about God's creation(origin of life) than atheists.

You don't seem to understand what imagination means, because this question doesn't quite make sense. What do you mean when you say imagination?

What it really means is making things up, in this context.

 

[Shad]

I know VS mean opposite.
I thought / is mean "or".

I used it to shorten space in title and question of poll.

You used "/" as synonymous symbol in your OP. I do not accept your excuse. You seemed to fully understand it. As I said before, backpedaling

 

[Godobeyer]

You used "/" as synonymous symbol in your OP. I do not accept your excuse. You seemed to fully understand it. As I said before, backpedaling

I used it as "or" in first time, Yes it's close to synonymous in meaning, depend the meaning, where is the problem?

 

[Shad]

I used it as "or" in first time, Yes it's close to synonymous in meaning, depend the meaning, where is the problem?

No you didn't as the poll for or against is the "or". Do you not understand your own poll?

You use the same symbol to mean two completely different things... And you wonder why I pointed out your error?

 

[Godobeyer]

No you didn't as the poll for or against is the "or". Do you not understand your own poll?

You use the same symbol to mean two completely different things... And you wonder why I pointed out your error?

I said I used it as "or" , if you understood it as synonymous there have no problem.

 

[Shad]

I said I used it as "or" , if you understood it as synonymous there have no problem.

"Or" is not a synonymous term but alternatives that are not the same.. You still have no idea what I am talking about do you? You keep making the same mistake. Now you are making another mistake as you do not understand your own poll is a choice. Yes we are designed/created or no we are not designed/created. The choices are the "or" not the "/"

Keep digging, maybe you will get out the hole you dug for yourself when it hits China.

 

[Godobeyer]

"Or" is not a synonymous term but alternatives that are not the same.. You still have no idea what I am talking about do you? You keep making the same mistake. Now you are making another mistake as you do not understand your own poll is a choice. Yes we are designed/created or no we are not designed/created. The choices are the "or" not the "/"

Keep digging, maybe you will get out the hole you dug for yourself when it hits China.

I have no problem to go to China.

 

[Shad]

I have no problem to go to China.

Another example of your lack English comprehension. It is a phrase which one has said something in error. Rather than admit that error they keep going as if there was no error and continue on defending the mistake or sidestep it as if they never made a mistake. This is what you are doing. You are points are incoherent due to the mistake and your refusal to understand the mistake.

 

[Godobeyer]

Why are you limiting creation to living things? All things are constantly being created. Right now the whole universe is created. In every moment, the universe is created. Yeah, all living things descend from one single-celled organism, or perhaps from a pre-cellular construct, but that's such a small part of creation. Only out of arrogance do we accord it such importance.

This is what I disagree, and had no sense to me. and contraction with what video said.
I personaly don't accept everything claimed by people science, or proved by "scientists".

btw This view is known that it's adopted by atheism ideology.

Check out:

https://flic.kr/p/16208667768

You don't seem to understand what imagination means, because this question doesn't quite make sense. What do you mean when you say imagination?

What it really means is making things up, in this context.

Forget it.