I see no problem in this, everyone is free to believe what he want.
If Bahai believe in Muhammad(pbuh) they probably considered Muslims to Allah.
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- Thread starter Godobeyer
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If Bahai believe in Muhammad(pbuh) they probably considered Muslims to Allah.
Shad
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Nah it was a simple assumption and a mistake on my part.
McBell
Unbound
I mention it mainly because understanding that that is how godobeyers mind works goes a long way in understanding where he is coming from.
Shad
Veteran Member
Muhammad's ideas have been supersede, as in replaced. This goes against the idea of him being the last prophet, seal of the prophet.
Yes you are muslim"submit" to your God according to your belief, not Islam believe, Got it now ?Right, but can you do it when you're talking? To make it clearer?
There's no problem in that, why would there be? By that definition, I am a Muslim. I am a Muslim by word but not religion
But when I refer to messangers of God ,Adam(pbuh) ,Abraham(pbuh) ...etc they were submit to Allah according to my belief., got it ?
Yeah, that's true. But I think that discussion was somewhat different, as there was (and remains!) a genuine lack of comprehension of the English terms involved. In this case, I don't think that's a factor.
Godobeyer I never did not understand this. I understood this from the beginning. I actually know quite a bit about what Muslims believe.
What I am asking you is, can you be clearer to separate Islam (submit) and Islam (religion) when you're talking about them?
That all considerate to Judgement Day,not me
That all considerate to Judgement Day,not me
Surely by picking this religion over any others, you've made a judgement?
Or is it more like 'I was born into this religion, so I might as well follow it, but I don't know which is right'?
Yes I do , it's linguistic issue.
Islam in commun sense it's not "word" now,it's refer to religion label. which mean " submit to God".
linguistic without religion it's mean"submission".
Yeah, that's right. Keep in mind clarity on this one from now on - don't switch between them without being clear!
You too keep in mind that Islam as commun understanding is refering to religion. not to word.
For exemple:
America is refering as commun sense to country "USA", not Continent, get it ?
Aren't you making a judgement to say that's true. You're making the judgement 'Atheism is wrong, Christianity is wrong, Buddhism is wrong, Confucianism is wrong, Daoism is wrong, there is Allah, Allah cares about me, Allah is going to judge at Judgement Day, if I follow Islam then he will judge me well, kuffar will go to hell' etc.
Yes. I understood this from the start.
Shad
Veteran Member
That all considerate to Judgement Day,not me
No I am pointing out a direct contradiction between these religions so they can not be Muslim.
Nah he's saying they'll be judged at Judgement Day, and so it is not his lot to judge them. Seems to imply to me that 'Allah ain't gonna be happy with those guys' but without being totally sure on their ultimate end.
That's different believe, as well you believe that my religion is not correct to follow,and all others.
I am not judging (that will take to all to jail
), I am critizising is closer word to meaning,of our discuss about religions.I do think that not all disbeleivers will enter to hell.
Allah knows best.
Good
I hope you,you helped shad to understand it to
That's different believe, as well you believe that my religion is not correct to follow,and all others.
I am not judging (that will take to all to jail
I do think that not all disbeleivers will enter to hell.
I don't think all other religions are wrong. I think all religions can be valid paths towards one truth. I don't think 'Hinduism is true, Islam/Christianity/Daoism are false', I think all are paths which can lead to God. If done right.
So what the wrong with Islam to not follow it ?
IF you believe that all ways lead to God why you choose Hinduism and reject the others, why not switch time by time to Christianity or Islam....etc?
Don't you ever critisize the others beliefs here ?!
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I prefer to walk than to travel by bus. Just what works for me.
As for why not switch from time to time - if you want water, do you dig one well six foot deep or six wells one foot deep?
I criticise people's ideas, yeah. But there are different ways to follow a given religion, and there's a lot more to them than belief. A religion is not just some set of truth claims, far from it.