Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?

[Godobeyer]

It is weird to me that so many people cannot see the difference between humans and cars.

We do make difference.but we believe both are not designed/formed them selfs.

 

[Godobeyer]

The watchmaker argument has in fact been refuted.

I speak about belief in Creator, most of world believe in.

 

[Shad]

I very doubt this true.

Read Hume Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. You can also take a basic philosophy course which will list the numerous objections to the argument

This poll don't deny the fact that most of world population are theists.

So what? The world being most theists does not make their belief true. This is nothing but an ad populum argument.

atheist are very minority.

Being in the minority does not mean we are wrong by default. This is merely the reverse of the above fallacy in that a minority view is wrong for being a minority view.

 

[Shad]

I speak about belief in Creator, most of world believe in.

The watchmaker analogy is an argument for God. You just do not know this. You can replace watch with cars or buildings, the form is the same.

 

[McBell]

We do make difference.but we believe both are not designed/formed them selfs.

Apparently not.
Given the analogy that both have to have a creator when it has not been shown outside wishful thinking that humans require a creator.

 

[McBell]

I speak about belief in Creator, most of world believe in.

Shad specifically said the watchmaker argument has been refuted.

Most of the world used to believe the world was flat.
That tomatoes were poisonous
if a horse hair was left in a barrel of water outside it would turn into a worm.

"most of world believes" is not evidence.

 

[Shad]

Shad specifically said the watchmaker argument has been refuted.

He does not know what we are talking about. He is parroting arguments he heard but does not understand which is basic apologetic repetition.

 

[Godobeyer]

Shad specifically said the watchmaker argument has been refuted.

Most of the world used to believe the world was flat.
That tomatoes were poisonous
if a horse hair was left in a barrel of water outside it would turn into a worm.

"most of world believes" is not evidence.

We are talking about concept of Creating/Creator !

 

[Godobeyer]

Apparently not.
Given the analogy that both have to have a creator when it has not been shown outside wishful thinking that humans require a creator.

"There is nothing created by it self" it's very simple idea,but you seems don't get it

 

[McBell]

He does not know what we are talking about. He is parroting arguments he heard but does not understand which is basic apologetic repetition.

Sad it is that the very next post he confirms your point.

 

[McBell]

"There is nothing created by it self" it's very simple idea,but you seems don't get it

It has not been shown that humans have been created.
It has been boldly declared ad nauseum, but never shown.

The fact that you are unable to comprehend it is besides the point.

 

[Smart_Guy]

We disagree over the terms used as it can be easily used as a watchmaker analogy in a bait and switch. Which is probably already has been in this thread (speculation). We speculate where this argument is heading as we are familiar with typical setups for the analogy and the OP is just this type of setup.

Your own post shows that you follow the premises of the analogy or argument in comparing things that are known to have a creator/designer then inferring this means there must be a single creator for everything. This argument has been refuted centuries ago.

Nope, it shows my own belief only, and saying things being refuted does not necessarily mean it is indeed refuted. It's just someone else's belief, in comparison

 

[Godobeyer]

]So what? The world being most theists does not make their belief true. This is nothing but an ad populum argument.

They believes it's true, why they should convinced others by?

Being in the minority does not mean we are wrong by default. This is merely the reverse of the above fallacy in that a minority view is wrong for being a minority view.

That's democraty. majority always win.

 

[Smart_Guy]

It is weird to me that so many people cannot see the difference between humans and cars.

Very sand indeed. Although it is not important that they are different in this really

 

[Godobeyer]

It has not been shown that humans have been created.
It has been boldly declared ad nauseum, but never shown.

At least you should believe that sperm and egg created you

 

[Shad]

"There is nothing created by it self" it's very simple idea,but you seems don't get it

Based on observations of a sampling of things but not every thing in the universe thus is a inductive conclusion thus you can not say "nothing" unless you have discovered everything. Your point is moot as your logic is flawed.

Do I need to explain the different between inductive and deductive reasoning?

Have we discovered everything in the universe?

 

[Godobeyer]

Based on observations of a sampling but not everything in the universe thus is a inductive conclusion thus you can not say "nothing" unless you have discovered everything. Your point is moot as your logic is flawed.

Do I need to explain the different between inductive and deductive reasoning?

Sorry typo error, I meant "any thing"

 

[Kirran]

That's democraty. majority always win.

Hahaha, man, you can't be serious? Go back 3000 years and the majority of people thought the Earth was flat, didn't make it true.

 

[Shad]

Nope, it shows my own belief only, and things being refuted does not necessarily mean it is indeed refuted. It's just someone else's belief, in comparison

Objection which refuted points shows that the argument has been refuted as it points out error in the logic of the argument not merely a belief. Logic is method not a belief.

 

[Shad]

Sorry typo error, I meant "any thing"

Irrelevant. You are backpedaling to cover up your mistake. Your sentence is incoherent with your replacement.

"There is any thing created by itself"