Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
I never mentioned gender "identity". I have maintained that sex and gender are the same thing.
Why is it you people only respond to the voices in your head?
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Does believing, thinking or feeling something is true actually make it true?
- Thread starter Ignatius A
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Why is it you people only respond to the voices in your head?
Sex means physical sex. It is about the biological sex (which can also be non-binary of course)
Gender means gender identity. What is the gender of the person. (And this can be also a range and can be different from physical sex).
Just because you incorrectly use terms since you have not understood the terminologies does not mean we will use the terms incorrectly.
Also why are you saying something that is false. This is your OP. You have been talking abour gender identity. Then learn the definition from the physicians quoted from the paper:-
Gender identity refers to a person’s innermost concept of self as male, female or something else and can be the same or different from one’s physical sex
Your OP:-
In recent discussions about gender identity it was said that gender identity is validated by what the person believes, thinks and feels. Fine. The follow question was then posted: Is someone with a penis who believes, thinks and feels that they are woman, actually a woman? The common response was, it's not a yes or no question. Is that true? If a person said they believe, think and feel that they are a frog mean they are actually a frog? Could we not say to that person you are an amphibian?
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But the idea of truth is.
The same with the concepts of man and woman.
Truth | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Agreed sex is biological. It can be "non binary" in extremely rare cases.
No gender refers to biology. Gender identity is a different matter. If you're a man and you "identify" as a woman the reason you have to "identify" as a woman is because you arent a woman. A woman doesn't need to "identify" herself as such because she IS a woman.
You mean I haven't perverted their use like you have? I agree.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, but read here:
Definition of GENDER
a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and … See the full definition
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Oh I see you're of the mindset that every opinion is as fake as every other. That's not only moronic it's dangerous.But the idea of truth is.
The same with the concepts of man and woman.
Now if you just read far enough you will notice that your idea of what truth is, is not the only one.Truth | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
iep.utm.edu
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Please point to how you know XY is man?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You can't point to that, so it is not true.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Because he produces sperm not ova. And so we don't have to wade through more garbage just because some men don't produce sperm doesnt mean sperm production is not an indicator of being a man.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Sure I can. This whole gender ideology BS has and will continue to ruin generations of human beings.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You didn't answer. How do you know by pointing to that producing sperm is what makes a man a man?
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
Because the other half of the species does not produce sperm they produce ova. AGAIN the words male/man and female/woman are socially constructed but they point to a reality. The words merely allow for meaningful communication. Changing the words doesn't change the reality.
PureX
Veteran Member
So you can actually see what they're thinking??? (Then why'd you ask?) Amazing! And who is 'scaring' them do you think? Is there an invisible "woke army" forcing them to pay lip service to some multi-gender agenda? I'll bet THAT'S what it is! Better call Tucker and report this!
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
You realize I can actually see the words you've typed right? Just a heads up buddy, stupidity and sarcasm aren't the same thing.So you can actually see what they're thinking??? (Then why'd you ask?) Amazing! And who is 'scaring' them do you think? Is there an invisible "woke army" forcing them to pay lip service to some multi-gender agenda? I'll bet THAT'S what it is! Better call Tucker and report this!
PureX
Veteran Member
Physicality and reality aren't the same things, either. Which is what everyone here is trying to tell you.
Alien826
No religious beliefs
And this means you have started to be offensive, which means I stop talking to you.
Ignatius A
Well-Known Member
It doesnt mean I was wrong though. Thank you
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yes, they point to a part of the human everyday world but not all of the human experince. But you are the gate keeper of what matters and what rule we should use for the words man and woman. And that is something you can point to and is not based on how you heard your inner voices for what makes a man and a woman that.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yes, you are wrong and that is true as I can point to it. I am doing it right now and you are wrong. Your inner voices are lying to you.
I edited my post.
You talked about gender identity in the OP.
Gender and Gender identity are the same thing.
No every person has a gender identity. My physical sex is male, my gender identity is man, and my sexual orientation is heterosexual. All these identities are crucial in my life and personality. Your denial about these things seems only because you cannot make up a good argument for your case.