Does Christmas have anything to do with Christ?

[JM2C]

huh?
you went way out into left field there.

That's another way of pretending

 

[McBell]

That's another way of pretending

if you refuse to explain then the problem is your confusing post, not on any one else's inability to cypher it.

 

[JM2C]

if you refuse to explain then the problem is your confusing post, not on any one else's inability to cypher it.

You mean refuse to understand? We could all read but if we refuse to understand then the problem is understanding on what we are reading.

 

[MikeSavage]

Not really. Why would I pretend on something I’m free of? I’m free to celebrate anything I want without others telling me otherwise. Pretending is the opposite of freedom. When you are slave to rules and regulations, the do this and that, made by this human thinking then you are pretending of something you’re really not. If I celebrate Christmas it’s because I’m free to do this. On the other hand, if you don’t celebrate Christmas, was it because Christians do, or was it because you are free to do this on your own? You made this rules on your own and that’s pretending.

I haven seen anyone telling you that you cannot celebrate anything. I did see others try to show you how it displeases God the Almighty if you do celebrate a pagan holiday though. Fear of God (fear of displeasing Him) is a good thing, brought about by love for Him. If you violate His standards, it shows a lack of love for Him.

 

[JM2C]

I haven seen anyone telling you that you cannot celebrate anything. I did see others try to show you how it displeases God the Almighty if you do celebrate a pagan holiday though. Fear of God (fear of displeasing Him) is a good thing, brought about by love for Him. If you violate His standards, it shows a lack of love for Him.

”If you violate His standards, it shows a lack of love for Him”? Really?

How do we know that your messages are from God? Let’s find out from God’s word if your messages really came from Him.

Dt 18:21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?”

Dt 18:22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

You people been predicting the unpredictable –you know the end of the world and failed- and you’re preaching to me that if I celebrate Christmas, if I celebrate my son’s, and my daughter’s, and my birthday I’m displeasing God?

 

[McBell]

You mean refuse to understand? We could all read but if we refuse to understand then the problem is understanding on what we are reading.

If you want to take that cop out, by all means feel free.
Just don't think that you are doing yourself or your god any favours with taking the lazy way out.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I did see others try to show you how it displeases God the Almighty if you do celebrate a pagan holiday though.

Simple, do it and find out.

 

[JM2C]

I give my wife little gifts for no other reason to to give her a gift.

No occasion involved.

Let’s define “occasion” then.

1oc·ca·sion

noun\ə-ˈkā-zhən\

: a special event or time

: a particular time when something happens

: a chance or opportunity : a situation that allows something to happen

You said “No occasion involved” ‘cause you don’t want to associate the word “Occasion” with the word “Gift” so you can justify that giving “gift” does not really meant an “occasion” was involved just to prove your point, but it really does according to the meaning of it.

Giving someone something like a “gift” is an example of “a particular time when something happens” or “a chance or opportunity: a situation that allows something to happen”, or IOW, an “OCCASION” and the only reason why you said “for no other reason” is because of the word “occasion” might correlate with the word “gift”.

 

[JM2C]

If you want to take that cop out, by all means feel free.

Just don't think that you are doing yourself or your god any favours with taking the lazy way out.

Hitting the nerve now, huh? I thought we are just debating.

 

[Cephus]

I haven seen anyone telling you that you cannot celebrate anything. I did see others try to show you how it displeases God the Almighty if you do celebrate a pagan holiday though. Fear of God (fear of displeasing Him) is a good thing, brought about by love for Him. If you violate His standards, it shows a lack of love for Him.

I always find it amazing how many people will tell you exactly what God thinks and what God wants on any issue that comes along but they can never show how they have any way of knowing these things. It's almost as if they just take their own views, slap "God" on them and pretend.

 

[MikeSavage]

”If you violate His standards, it shows a lack of love for Him”? Really?

How do we know that your messages are from God? Let’s find out from God’s word if your messages really came from Him.

Dt 18:21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?”

Dt 18:22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

You people been predicting the unpredictable –you know the end of the world and failed- and you’re preaching to me that if I celebrate Christmas, if I celebrate my son’s, and my daughter’s, and my birthday I’m displeasing God?

Yes, really. If you do not honor what He requires of us, it shows a lack of love for God the Almighty. No question of it. And I am not "you people", I am one man. You also quoted a couple of hand picked scriptures referring to prophets. I am not a prophet, so it doesn't pertain. I have not spoken anything prophetic either, so again, it does not pertain. Are you sober?

 

[savagewind]

Yes, really. If you do not honor what He requires of us, it shows a lack of love for God the Almighty. No question of it. And I am not "you people", I am one man. You also quoted a couple of hand picked scriptures referring to prophets. I am not a prophet, so it doesn't pertain. I have not spoken anything prophetic either, so again, it does not pertain. Are you sober?

You support the people who prophesy falsely and you know it. You are advertising for them. Aren't you?

 

[`mud]

hey Savage,
You grant him much too much power, he can't advertise his.....
oh well......you get it !
~
'mud

 

[MikeSavage]

You support the people who prophesy falsely and you know it. You are advertising for them. Aren't you?

What are you talking about? You aren't sober, are you? I am not in the advertising business, and I know no one who prophesies falsely. In fact, I don't know anyone who prophesies at all. Why do you think you know me? I assure you, you and I have never met.

 

[savagewind]

What are you talking about? You aren't sober, are you? I am not in the advertising business, and I know no one who prophesies falsely. In fact, I don't know anyone who prophesies at all. Why do you think you know me? I assure you, you and I have never met.

I am sure you have said you are a Jehovah's Witness. I think you have said you have been such for many years. If that is so I know you have heard the man's command "advertise, advertise, advertise the King and his Kingdom". Am I wromg?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Fear of God (fear of displeasing Him) is a good thing, brought about by love for Him. If you violate His standards, it shows a lack of love for Him.

That's a very one-sided version of "love." If I love someone, it is not someone I am going to be afraid of. If I were to disappoint someone and had to worry about their disappointment because this person would take it as a sign of a lack of love, that person is not worthy of love. Actually, we tend to call those sort of relations abusive relationships. Good thing I live by my own standards, so it really doesn't apply to me.

 

[MikeSavage]

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[MikeSavage]

That's a very one-sided version of "love." If I love someone, it is not someone I am going to be afraid of. If I were to disappoint someone and had to worry about their disappointment because this person would take it as a sign of a lack of love, that person is not worthy of love. Actually, we tend to call those sort of relations abusive relationships. Good thing I live by my own standards, so it really doesn't apply to me.

Take it up with God. The "idea" of love, as you call it, is from the scriptures, which are from God the Almighty. Arguing, disagreeing, complaining, name calling, etc., will NOT change the facts now, will it. Now you are replacing the word displeasing with the word disappoint.

 

[MikeSavage]

I am sure you have said you are a Jehovah's Witness. I think you have said you have been such for many years. If that is so I know you have heard the man's command "advertise, advertise, advertise the King and his Kingdom". Am I wromg?

I advertise as you call it for the One who said: Exekiel 6:
14 I will stretch out my hand against them and make the land desolate, and all their dwelling places will become more desolate than the wilderness near Dib′lah. And they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’”

There is no false prophesying, and never has been with God's people.

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.

Smile .... oh good , that is most of us who are left alive on the planet