I don't think that my nation is innocent, and they did a lot wrong, there are still reservations, and there is still things that the government can do about that, but that blood is not on my hands, it's on the hands of people that died hundreds of years ago. Palestine and Israel is today. Who gives a damn about blaming people and what happened in the past? Israel and Palestine is today. The only relevance of the American past is maybe that Israel and Palestine can learn from it, if anything at all. The fact that its so modern is VERY important, because it is actually in recent memory, people from then still being alive, and violence STILL happening because of it. The relevance of it being modern is paramount because it's still going on, it's still an issue. With Native Americans, there isn't anymore bloodshed or wars because of it, but with Israel, there are still wars, there is still violence. THAT is why it being so current, so modern, that it's an issue.
I want to respond to this because the blood is on the hand of those who carried out the actions of the American government and we as Americans have inherited the legacy. We as Americans still have not fixed what was done to the Native Americans. It is not ancient history in fact the Native populations still suffer the consequences of what was done to them.
It is not 100s of years ago as you say but as recently as 174 years ago when the Cherokee were forcibly removed from their homes.
1838
Approximately 17,000 North Carolina Cherokee are forcibly removed from the state to the Indian Territory (present-day Oklahoma). This event becomes known as the Trail of Tears.
An estimated 4,000 Cherokee people die during the 1,200-mile trek. A few hundred Cherokee refuse to be rounded up and transported. They hide in the mountains and evade federal soldiers. Eventually, a deal is struck between the army and the remaining Cherokee. Tsali, a leading Cherokee brave, agrees to surrender himself to General Winfield Scott to be shot if the army will allow the rest of his people to stay in North Carolina legally. The federal government eventually establishes a reservation for the Eastern Band of Cherokee.
Trail of Tears - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Forced movement of Native Americans from from 1831 to 1838
The 1887 Dawes Act: The U.S. Theft of 90 Million Acres of Indian Land - ICTMN.com
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The 1887 Dawes Act: The U.S. Theft of 90 Million Acres of Indian Land - ICTMN.com The 1887 Dawes Act: The U.S. Theft of 90 Million Acres of Indian Land - ICTMN.com
Under that allotment legislation, for which there was no legitimate constitutional basis, Indian land holdings dropped from 138 million acres down to 48 million acres, for a loss to Indian nations of some 90 million acres of land.
Native American boarding schools - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Boarding schools for Native American children in 19th and 20th centuries.
The Native American populations in my country still live with the consequences of what the Europeans did to them and your and my ancestors were responsible and we inherited the legacy.
In 1948 the Palestinians and the Jewish people were offered a state that was voted on in the UN and the Palestinians said no and the Jews said yes.
The Arab nations went to war and lost.
The land was not stolen. The land was filled with Jews who had lived in the land and in the middle east for 1000s of years. Many Jewish people can count back as many generations as I can for part of my family here in the US.
Land was bought legally and settled legally.
The facts on the ground are that Israel is a country and that will not change. There would not be 64 years of conflict if wars had not been fought to attempt to destroy a nation.
The wars were not necessary as the Palestinians were offered a state which they turned down.
This is what irritates me the most.
What was done to the Native populations in the US is nothing like the conflict in Israel, it is much worse then the conflict in the middle east.
The hostilities continue because of the rockets coming from Gaza and the Israelis disengaged from Gaza several years ago. Now Gaza is run by Hamas and they are a terrorist organization bent on the destruction of Israel.
The Palestinians have started 2 intifadas that targeted innocent Israeli citizens going on about their days. The suicide bombers targeted crowded markets, busses and restaurants filled with men, women and children.
The ongoing hostilities cause the need for a fence and checkpoints to keep terrorists and weapons out of Israel.
If the Palestinians had accepted a state 64 years ago and set to nation building there would be no war or conflict.
sarcastic), but he didn't actually say. I assumed he ment Palestine as in: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/UN_Partition_Plan_For_Palestine_1947.svg , but just to be clear jasonwill2 (if you read this) could you just say if that is what your question is about?
