leibowde84
Veteran Member
The OP is about Trump's wealth and his inconsistent, dishonest claims about it. Trump obviously knows that what he said was incorrect. Thus, it isn't a mistake, it is a lie.
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Does It Disturb You That the US President Is a Compulsive, Blatant, Unrepentant Liar?
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Really?
Again?
You don't recall our extensive 'discussion's of their relative
merits, & what things would possibly play out if either won?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
But, now we know a lot more. We know what kind of president Trump is.
Back when deciding whom to vote for, we couldn't consider developments in 2017.
And making things even cloudier, we don't know how a Hillary presidency would look.
So what do you propose be done with this quasi-information now?
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Lesser of 2 evils
esmith
Veteran Member
As a retired member of the military what she got away with would have me Court Martialed. She admits that her vote on Iraq was wrong, yet she advocated for military action in Libya, then walked away which lead to Benghazi and a failed state. She thought that it was her right to be President in 2008 and again in 2016 and she blames everyone else except herself. And the biggest reason is I can't stand her demeanor. There are hundreds of more reason but I think you get the idea.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
That's not answering my question. What did Hillary do to convince you that Trump was qualified to become President?
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
What makes you think I think he's qualified?
He really wasn't the best candidate. It's just that people have discouraging criteria about what constitutes leadership.
I refer to the 2 parties' idea of "best".
Personally, I found'm both awful.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
You said that Hillary convinced you that Trump was qualified to be President.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
But the rules that govern the military are not all the same with civilians.
But you like Trump's demeanor, right? So, it's OK to lie, brag about being able to grope women, demean a handicapped person, call people names, make racist (anti-Latino) statements, walk uninvited into women's changing area, threaten people with physical harm, cheat and be fined for misuse of campaign funds, run his Trump University scam and get fined for that, bully people by calling them names, chant "Lock her up!" that would be a violation of our Constitution if done, and who knows what else?
The reality is that you really wanted him, as you have admitted before, regardless of his depravity, so Hillary is just an excuse for you and you know it. And then you ignore the connections that at least several of his aids, and maybe even Trump himself, have had with the one country that is the single most dangerous threat to the United States. And why would you do that if you wore the uniform of one that pledged to protect the United States of American and uphold the Constitution? Now you think that Russia under Putin is supposedly our friend?
esmith
Veteran Member
Just because you are a civilian does not excuse you for mishandling classified information even though you and others don't see it that way.
No but when the choice came down to a person like Hillary and Donald one must weigh what is important and what is not. I chose President Trump over the Hillary.
Seems like you are making a lot of assumptions about what I think.
Seems like you are making assumptions about something that is not proven.
Unfortunately you really don't have a clue what the oath of enlistment is. I will provide it to you and have you note one part of the oath that has to do with the President. So you can stop your ridiculous asinine statement concerning my military service.
“I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
As far as your statement about Putin and Russia, no I do not think they have our best interest at heart. On a further note seems that all of you had no problem with your beloved Obama and his statement as seen in the below videos. Or is it those that support the policies of the Obama and Hillary can see no wrong no matter what they do.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
And you don't think that Comey wasn't aware of that? Are you some sort of legal expert and a judge whereas you supposedly know the specifics of what Comey was dealing with and why he supposedly judged Hillary?
That's a pathetic lie as I have not assumed that Trump is guilty on the Russian charges and I have reteadly said as such many times here. But we do well know of the "connections", which is the word I used versus "collusion", with some other members of his camp with the Russians.
What does this have to do with what I posted? You keep pawning yourself off as if you're some sort of constitutional expert who knows so much more than Comey about Hillary's testimony and situation. It is you, not I, who keeps jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions, so maybe look up the word "hypocrisy", esmith.
Now we can see clearly why you voted for Trump as you are lying again. I have criticized both Hillary and Obama on quite a few occasions, and you were aware at least some of those. And yet you now double-down with the utter dishonesty with your statement above? How low can you go, esmith? No wonder you voted for Trump.
esmith
Veteran Member
How do you know that a decision was not reached at the highest level that Hillary's problems would not be brought before a Grand Jury due to the fact that it would affect the outcome of a Presidential election. Can I not make that assumption just as there are those that say that President Trump colluded with Putin? It is all speculation at this time
I retract my statement and say that there are those that do say so. However, you did say "that would be a violation of our Constitution if done, and who knows what else?" is that not speculation?
@metis I think you are confused your above statement was in response my statements which was as follows:
Unfortunately you really don't have a clue what the oath of enlistment is. I will provide it to you and have you note one part of the oath that has to do with the President. So you can stop your ridiculous asinine statement concerning my military service.
What does your above have to do with what I said.
I will retract my reference to you but only to you. However, do you not see a little problem with those who are calling out President Trump about Russia when the Obama clearly seemed to believe that Russia was not a threat.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Hilary has convinced me that a dead rat is qualified to be president. So what?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
That makes no sense though. How does Hillary not being qualified to be president magically make Trump qualified to be president? I understand the lesser of 2 evils argument though (although I think Trump was way worse).
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Well, neither is qualified to be president. Which leads us to the age old question, Who is?
Probably nobody I know of.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Fair enough.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
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