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Does The Bible Contain Errors And Contradictions

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
(King James Bible, Matthew)
Thank you, so brilliant of Jesus to say these things!
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I gave you hundreds of answers, but ignorant people just refuse to deal with the evidence and plead ignorance. Quite sad really, you're never gonna learn anything while you remain fortified in that fortress of ignorance
You gave no evidence, and your answers mostly deception, deflection and false accusation in effort to demonize the messenger in some kind of thought stopping effort to make the "bad throught" go away" but, regardless .. you did finally cough up the name of your God ... Lord Jealous.

Lord Jealous is the Father and God of the Pharisees -- the God who Jesus calls the Father of Lies - the Devil !! in scripture you said should be burned.

Do you believe in the Power of Lord Satan ? Hearken not to the Lord of lies and deciet Brother Charles .. but to Lord Jesus .. the Truth - the way .. and the light.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Satan is not a god. He, too, is a creation of God's. His power is kept in check by God.
The Bible does speak of Satan as a god. It is really a manner of speaking.

Of course Satan is a God .. by any reasonable definition of Divine Power. and the question is not what we think .. but what did the 2 millenium Israelite think of Ha Satan of Job .. the Tester of Souls .. who we find out is a "Son of God" .. just like Jesus .. cept the offspring of 2 Gods .. rather than God and Human.

This divine entity has ability to go back and forth from Earth to Heaven -- has a Title .. in heaven .. holds a trusted position withing the Divine Pantheon .. a Title bestowed upon Sataniel by God Supreme .. and a mission .. to be the Tester of Souls on earth .. The powers of this divinity .. no small affair .. reign fire down from sky .. control the minds of humans .. During the testing of Jesus we are told this Divinity has Power over the whole Earth - ( which kind of makes him Chief God on Earth does it not ? .. certainly according to Israelite Theology .. Israelites believing in many many Gods)

How does this Divine Being .. not meet the God Standard ? and while I agree that Satan does not act outside of God of Heaven's instruction .. and is shown as less powerful than "The Father" .. he is still a God .. that can do pretty much what he wishes with humans .. but perhaps more importantly .. this is not "The Devil" of Revelations .. Ha Satan is not against The Father .. is not the antithesis of God .. not fighting some war against the God of Heaven ..

Ha Satan is not "The Devil" - according to Jesus -- The Devil is the Father of the Pharisee's ... Lord Jealous .. This is not the God of Jesus - Jesus a Priest forever of the Order Melchi-Zedek .. and accordingly serves the God of that Order. Notice the Zadokite priesthood is NOT -- the Aaronite Priesthood .. the Aaronite Priesthood serving a different God .. Lord YHWH ..

So it is written Ladies and Gentlemen .. So it shall be Done .. .. Every Israelite to a person .. and every Canaanite .. for this a Canaanite Story after all ... and we can extend the near East and Further .. Knows the God of the Priesthood of Melchi-Zedek .. The tough question is .. why then don't you ? cause the Bible tells us so friends .. Please tell me who the name of the God of the Priesthood to which Jesus is a member !?
 

Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
Of course Satan is a God .. by any reasonable definition of Divine Power. and the question is not what we think .. but what did the 2 millenium Israelite think of Ha Satan of Job .. the Tester of Souls .. who we find out is a "Son of God" .. just like Jesus .. cept the offspring of 2 Gods .. rather than God and Human.

This divine entity has ability to go back and forth from Earth to Heaven -- has a Title .. in heaven .. holds a trusted position withing the Divine Pantheon .. a Title bestowed upon Sataniel by God Supreme .. and a mission .. to be the Tester of Souls on earth .. The powers of this divinity .. no small affair .. reign fire down from sky .. control the minds of humans .. During the testing of Jesus we are told this Divinity has Power over the whole Earth - ( which kind of makes him Chief God on Earth does it not ? .. certainly according to Israelite Theology .. Israelites believing in many many Gods)

How does this Divine Being .. not meet the God Standard ? and while I agree that Satan does not act outside of God of Heaven's instruction .. and is shown as less powerful than "The Father" .. he is still a God .. that can do pretty much what he wishes with humans .. but perhaps more importantly .. this is not "The Devil" of Revelations .. Ha Satan is not against The Father .. is not the antithesis of God .. not fighting some war against the God of Heaven ..

Ha Satan is not "The Devil" - according to Jesus -- The Devil is the Father of the Pharisee's ... Lord Jealous .. This is not the God of Jesus - Jesus a Priest forever of the Order Melchi-Zedek .. and accordingly serves the God of that Order. Notice the Zadokite priesthood is NOT -- the Aaronite Priesthood .. the Aaronite Priesthood serving a different God .. Lord YHWH ..

So it is written Ladies and Gentlemen .. So it shall be Done .. .. Every Israelite to a person .. and every Canaanite .. for this a Canaanite Story after all ... and we can extend the near East and Further .. Knows the God of the Priesthood of Melchi-Zedek .. The tough question is .. why then don't you ? cause the Bible tells us so friends .. Please tell me who the name of the God of the Priesthood to which Jesus is a member !?
Whoa. Didn't mean to raise your blood pressure.

Okay, perhaps a demigod, like Jesus, but with a different mission. A divine being of lesser status than the Father, but higher than angels. Jesus the firstborn of the dead, the first to be fully tested and to prove mankind can conquer the world, now returned to heaven to sit at The Father's right hand; and the left place -- held for the last to rejoin the Father, when his mission is complete, after all Souls have "conquered the world", returning as the Heavenly Father's Prodigal Son, Satan. And Hell (as on earth) will be destroyed, and finally:
Below as Above.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Whoa. Didn't mean to raise your blood pressure.

Okay, perhaps a demigod, like Jesus, but with a different mission. A divine being of lesser status than the Father, but higher than angels. Jesus the firstborn of the dead, the first to be fully tested and to prove mankind can conquer the world, now returned to heaven to sit at The Father's right hand; and the left place -- held for the last to rejoin the Father, when his mission is complete, after all Souls have "conquered the world", returning as the Heavenly Father's Prodigal Son, Satan. And Hell (as on earth) will be destroyed, and finally:
Below as Above.

why would you think blood pressure was raised ? .. was merely educating you .. no harsh intent friend but unfortunately you did not heed the word of the prophets .. as written .. Ha Satan will not be destroyed .. as is not the God fighting against "The Father" . Ha Satan is not the Devil of Revelations friend .. two different entities. You are not getting the story straight ..

but, Yes .. a "demigod" . which is a God .. and in Ha Satan's case a very powerfull God .. who Muscles out Lord Marduk out of the "Chief God on earth Position" who had previously muscled out Lord YHWH

No idea what your "souls conquiring the world" talk is about .. knowledge about some mission of the Gods do you have ? but to end on a positive note .. a broken clock right twice a day kind of thing . but correct .. that it is the priesthood of Melchi-Zedek .. that sits at the right hand of "The Father" in the Divine Council - Divine Assembly of ( @@ -insert name of God Supreme Here @@)
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Dead wrong again, my God hates. I don't know anything about your god

"My God Hates" cries out Brother Charles .. but, Does the Devil "Hate" its victims ? .. not so sure .. but perhaps it hates the light .. so perhaps on that account you are right. Turn from this dark path .. the spirit of Lord Jealous is to be feared but not worshiped.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
OK, I'll ask @Charles Philips -- do you think that Jesus was 6 feet tall, with blue eyes and blond hair?
TRUE STORY TIME:
When I lived in Germany, actually the first weekend I lived there, this antique dealer gave me GAVE ME. a porcelain Jesus that was from around the 1930s. Jesus was blonde haired and blue eyed. I kid you not. Aryan Jesus.
 
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Spice

StewardshipPeaceIntergityCommunityEquality
why would you think blood pressure was raised ? .. was merely educating you .. no harsh intent friend but unfortunately you did not heed the word of the prophets .. as written .. Ha Satan will not be destroyed .. as is not the God fighting against "The Father" . Ha Satan is not the Devil of Revelations friend .. two different entities. You are not getting the story straight ..

but, Yes .. a "demigod" . which is a God .. and in Ha Satan's case a very powerfull God .. who Muscles out Lord Marduk out of the "Chief God on earth Position" who had previously muscled out Lord YHWH

No idea what your "souls conquiring the world" talk is about .. knowledge about some mission of the Gods do you have ? but to end on a positive note .. a broken clock right twice a day kind of thing . but correct .. that it is the priesthood of Melchi-Zedek .. that sits at the right hand of "The Father" in the Divine Council - Divine Assembly of ( @@ -insert name of God Supreme Here @@)
I never said Satan would be destroyed. He is God's Prodigal Son. His mission will take the longest. He is destined to see that we all learn to be worthy of heaven. And IMO, he will not fail, just as Jesus did not fail in proving we can do it, and giving us The Way.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
TRUE STORY TIME:
When I lived in Germany, actually the first weekend I lived there, this antique dealer gave me GAVE ME. a porcelain Jesus that was from around the 1930s. Jesus was blonde haired and blue eyed. I kid you not.
I believe you. (I am innately saying 'wow.')
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I believe you. (I am innately saying 'wow.')
YEAH, I said Wow too. I still have that porcelain figure. I also have other porcelain figures that do NOT have blonde hair and blue eyes and are not from Germany.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I never said Satan would be destroyed. He is God's Prodigal Son. His mission will take the longest. He is destined to see that we all learn to be worthy of heaven. And IMO, he will not fail, just as Jesus did not fail in proving we can do it, and giving us The Way.

OK .. that I can agree with in terms of being Biblical - the Tester of Souls - the point of which is obviously to see of we are worthy .. and perhaps he will not fail in this assignment given him by God Supreme -- but, you have yet to answer the question .. and give us the name of "God Supreme" .. as one can not know "The Way" lest one knows what God's commands to follow.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
TRUE STORY TIME:
When I lived in Germany, actually the first weekend I lived there, this antique dealer gave me GAVE ME. a porcelain Jesus that was from around the 1930s. Jesus was blonde haired and blue eyed. I kid you not.

I don't think that this is surprising considering the fact that Adolf Hitler believed in and promoted the Aryan race when he was in power. According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia, he and the Nazis identified Germans as members of the Aryan race, who were white, blonde, blue-eyed, athletic, and tall. So, in my opinion, a white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jesus figurine from Nazi Germany circa the 1930s isn't shocking. I find it disturbing, but not surprising.
 
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firedragon

Veteran Member
I don't think that this is surprising considering the fact that Adolf Hitler believed in and promoted the Aryan race when he was in power. According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia, he and the Nazis identified Germans as members of the Aryan race, who were white, blonde, blue-eyed, athletic, and tall. So, in my opinion, a white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jesus figurine from Nazi Germany circa the 1930s isn't shocking. I find it disturbing, but not surprising.
There are images like that prior to the 20th century.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't think that this is surprising considering the fact that Adolf Hitler believed in and promoted the Aryan race when he was in power. According to the Holocaust Encyclopedia, he and the Nazis identified Germans as members of the Aryan race, who were white, blonde, blue-eyed, athletic, and tall. So, in my opinion, a white, blonde-haired, blue-eyed Jesus figurine from Nazi Germany circa the 1930s isn't shocking. I find it disturbing, but not surprising.

I just found it to be blatant. Hey, I put it with my black Jesus, which I also find to be weird.
 

Madsaac

Active Member
Yeah, I have a very ow view of humanists. They are at the bottom of the pecking order, so I don't know why you copied and pasted their nonsense here. The humanist view is totally irrelevant and not valid in any way shape or form. Humanism is a fake theory down to it's very core, as it has no standards or foundation. It's a free for all dogs breakfast

These could have been Christian humanist? Not sure, doesn't matter, the fact is that they speak some truth and have proven the bible is just another work of fiction.

Why believe in something written 2000 years a go in the middle east, there's heaps of better things to learn from and enjoy, here's just a few, 1984, The Lord of the Rings, A Christmas Carol, Frankenstein and there's heaps more as well......:)
 
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