firedragon
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Honored.
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Does The Bible Contain Errors And Contradictions
- Thread starter Charles Philips
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Trailblazer
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I alone know what I did, and of course God knows. You do not know.
Disagreeing with you about whether Satan exists is not imposing because I am not forcing you to accept my beliefs..
impose
to force someone to accept something, especially a belief or way of living: impose something on someone I don't want them to impose their religious beliefs on my children. We must impose some kind of order on the way this office is run.
IMPOSE | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
firedragon
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Forget personal faiths.
As a Bahai, objectively, do you believe the Qur'an is God's word?
Trailblazer
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So who is imposing on who?
Trailblazer
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That all depends upon what you mean by God's word...
Then there are two other issues, translation and interpretation.
firedragon
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Revealed by God to the prophet Muhammed.
I gave you the linguistics. Do you dispute? Please explain on what basis.
Don't take this offensively. I understand that it might be harsh since this is your personal faith. But take a methodological approach. If you dont wish to, please do say and I will of course stop replying. Okay?
firedragon
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It's not me. It's the text. Not my thoughts. It's the language.
Trailblazer
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Revealed by God to the prophet Muhammad, but written by men. That leaves room for errors, just like the Bible.
Don't take this offensively but I did not read it since I have no interest in debating the issue of whether Satan exists.
firedragon
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oh so you believe Qur'an has errors. No problem. Please provide the information necessary to believe that there are errors in knowing what Asshaithan, Shaythan, and Shayatheena means. Be specific.
Trailblazer
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Texts do not impose things, people do.
Words in religious texts are open to interpretation and need to be understood in context.
firedragon
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Absolutely. So explain linguistically.
Trailblazer
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If the Qur'an says that Jesus was neither crucified nor died on the cross and it was only made to appear that way, that is an error.
I told you I did not want to debate this.
Trailblazer
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I told you I did not want to debate this. You are free to believe whatever you want to believe as am I.
firedragon
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Cheers.
firedragon
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Everyone is absolutely free to believe what you wish. One could be wrong in simple linguistic and mislead.
I shall tell you directly that you are not engaging with the language because you are completely mislead. Someone lied to you because they know you don't know the language and you have dissonance because you call the Qur'an God's word and then at the same time reject it. You have no studies or even research done on the Bible or the Qur'an or the language and blindly believe a website of your choice.
Anyway, I thought I should simply say this even if you get offended. must state facts. I will not engage with this particular topic any more. Yet I believe you are a good person.
Cheers.
Ouchie ... Wowchie .. something sure sent you running from the playground .. Did the Biblical fact the creator God did not think much of the the humans that the Gods created .. and in fact believes you are so worthless .. Gods words not mine " -- only wicked and worthless thoughts .. only evil all the time .. that he tried to wipe all humans out .. Fortunately another God saved a few humans.,,
Did you not understand "Let US make man in OUR Image" .. thats plural friend .. and plural is how everyone understood the story ~1800 BC at the time of Abe .. down to the end of the Israelites in~ 720 BC..
Everyone believed that is was a number of Gods had a hand in the creation of humans friend .. not just the Israelites but all the other peoples around them . Hittites - Moabites - Phonecians - Ammonites - Assyrians - Babylonians .. and so on.
What it the idea of more than one God that gives you trouble Brother True
Well, we all have a divine, built-in conscience which guides us, don’t we? Deep down, we mostly know good behavior. Some people are messed-up though. Their conscience has been “seared”.
1 Timothy 4:1,2.
DJust curious…does your Bible say “teachings of demons” in that verse?
What do you think that might be?
You can read the following verses. You might find it interesting.
Goodnight, my cousin.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The author is very obviously engages in an ad hominem attack against those who originally believed, but have come to change their mind. Rather than admit someone can simply become convinced that their former beliefs were wrong, he attacks them personally. He convinces himself that they have left due to demons, so that he doesn't have to deal with their very real concerns.
If you quoted the entire sentence, you would not yourself have been trolling. But you didn't, did you? Because here it is, as anyone can see.
firedragon
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Cheers.