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Don't the Hinduism (Dharmic) people need a concise Scripture?

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Particularly because India, after all, has a very large number of Muslims. But I fear that such a view will have trouble finding appeal outside of the Muslim readership.
Luis, I was being sarcastic. There will no publisher for this.
 

von bek

Well-Known Member
I have multiple bookshelves filled with books. Maybe I should condense all of them down into one book so everything is concise.

Have you guys seen libraries? Too many books, nobody could read them all. We need to make it all more concise. Stephen King has written probably 50 books, at least. Too much. We need to combine all the Stephen King books into one super-novel that has all his main points and themes.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't know how much plainer we can make this, or how many times I can say this is the same broken record being played over and over again.

Y'know, there's a saying that if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. I don't know if our chains are being yanked and we're being poked with a stick. To that end, I'm going to be part of the solution.

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RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Y'know, there's a saying that if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. I don't know if our chains are being yanked and we're being poked with a stick. To that end, I'm going to be part of the solution.

If you get a chance, for your amusement perhaps, you might want to read the OP's ignorant and arrogant attacks....Oops, I meant evaluations..... of Hebrew and Christian scripture and his belief that those scriptures are hopelessly corrupted by lying scribes and the influence of evil priests, scumbag rabbis and other demented clergy. All offered in a spirit of the purest love, all delivered in the finest Uriah Heep manner.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Particularly because India, after all, has a very large number of Muslims. But I fear that such a view will have trouble finding appeal outside of the Muslim readership.
Gone are the days when Hinduism were only restricted to the Indian-sub-continent and they considered it a sin to go beyond Himalayas or beyond the adjacent seas of the Indian/Arabic Sea/Ocean, except for the military excursions,occasionally.
Now Hinduism people could be found in the whole world and many people among other nations/countries take interest in Vedas and other Hinduism scriptures. There will be millions of persons interested in it. Of course those who have no interest in it, they won't be compelled to read it, but others should not be denied the opportunity and they would be blessed to have an insight in it.
Muslims, Buddhists, Christians etc may happily read it. Please
After all it were the Christians who were the pioneers to translate Vedas in English. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If you get a chance, for your amusement perhaps, you might want to read the OP's ignorant and arrogant attacks....Oops, I meant evaluations..... of Hebrew and Christian scripture and his belief that those scriptures are hopelessly corrupted by lying scribes and the influence of evil priests, scumbag rabbis and other demented clergy. All offered in a spirit of the purest love, all delivered in the finest Uriah Heep manner.
Long time to see your valuable comments!
Thanks for your charitable inputs. One is always welcome!Hope seeing more in the future.
Regards
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
There are many souls who, in the last century, when the British came to India, got intertwined with the British and other foreigners, and were convinced that life was better in the west, that the western dualistic philosophies were superiour, and more. So by the process or reincarnation they got reborn into the west, because of the false knowledge, but strong desire. Now, with a longer and more accurate look at what the west has to offer, they (these souls) see it was a huge mistake, and are returning to Sanatana Dharma in droves. There are several of us on these forums and a few million more on their way.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/yoga-studios-in-us-tree-pose_n_6859258.html
24 million people in the US practice yoga. This is the major reason ... they're dharmic souls.

None of them need a concise summary of the Vedas.
 

shivsomashekhar

Well-Known Member
Further to post #230.
Hinduism Scripture- The Compressed One

I wish that the ordinary man should be facilitated to read and finish the Hinduism Scripture in a reasonable time frame , the hegemony of the Brahmins/priests/clergy on the scripture should come to an end and people get spiritual guidance direct from the scripture itself. Life being so busy, ordinary people cannot afford to read such a voluminous Hinduism scripture, they will rather be thankful if such a concise/condensed/compressed scripture is produced which could be finished if not in 30 days or month, at least in year. Quran could be finished in thirty days , if read a part in 30/45 minutes a day.

The planning is like:

1. Rigveda, is proposed to be kept as it is.
2. Sam Veda which is a liturgical text whose 1,875 verses are primary derived from the Rigveda and only 65 new mantras/verses are there in Samaveda, so it should be compressed to 65 verses only and a footnote written on the verses in the Rigveda indicating that.
3.I am reading Yajurveda as you one knows and now I at Chapter XIII Verse 8 or at page # 159 of total 500+ pages. I have found out that about some 50 verses are just repetition of the previous verses. These could be compressed for an ordinary man and only references provided in the original one.

Anybody, please

Regards

Your entire premise is incorrect.

Hinduism is not a religion like Islam or Christian and with few exceptions, Hindu practices are not based on scripture.

The typical Hindu does not read scripture and does not need to.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Paar's premise is thus: "I need scripture. Therefore you need scripture."

It's laughable. It's like saying to a bald man. "I need a haircut. Therefore you need a haircut."
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
There are many souls who, in the last century, when the British came to India, got intertwined with the British and other foreigners, and were convinced that life was better in the west, that the western dualistic philosophies were superiour, and more. So by the process or reincarnation they got reborn into the west, because of the false knowledge, but strong desire. Now, with a longer and more accurate look at what the west has to offer, they (these souls) see it was a huge mistake, and are returning to Sanatana Dharma in droves. There are several of us on these forums and a few million more on their way.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/yoga-studios-in-us-tree-pose_n_6859258.html
24 million people in the US practice yoga. This is the major reason ... they're dharmic souls.

The U.S. States With The Most Yoga Studios Per Capita

Kate Bratskeir Food and Health Editor, The Huffington Post
More and more Americans are practicing their downward dogs. A whopping 20.4 million people reportedly practice yoga in the U.S., a significant increase from the 15.8 million yogis in 2008.
This is good news, considering all of the mighty perks of getting bendy. Yoga has been proven to increase flexibility, boost happiness and ease pain. Naturally, with an increasing number of yogis comes an increasing number of places to practice. Bikram, Ashtanga and Vinyasa studios can be found all across America, but are more concentrated in some states than others.
Alaska hosts the most yoga studios per capita out of every state in the country, despite its minuscule population. This hardly comes as a surprise, since it is among the happiest states — and yoga boosts happiness, remember?
Of course, you don’t have to move to the last frontier to center yourself. The map below illustrates the amount of yoga studios per state capita. See how your state compares to the rest and then, might we suggest, do a little desk yoga. Namaste!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/yoga-studios-in-us-tree-pose_n_6859258.html

It is really a good news that people return/revert to any revealed religion, be it Hinduism or Buddhism. I don't mind. That is my approach, one must have noted that I defend all the Revealed Religions.
Thanks and regards

 

gnostic

The Lost One
I still don't think Hindus have to have their scriptures discarded for a single concise scripture, paarsurrey.

The Hindu scriptures shouldn't be treated like the Qur'an.

Hinduism shouldn't be treated like any variation of the Abrahamic religions and sects.

And you shouldn't be the one to tell what Hindus should or shouldn't do.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Paar's premise is thus: "I need scripture. Therefore you need scripture."

It's laughable. It's like saying to a bald man. "I need a haircut. Therefore you need a haircut."

And I say "I shave, so nyah nyah!" (I'm sorry, I'm tired and got pain :D).
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I still don't think Hindus have to have their scriptures discarded for a single concise scripture, paarsurrey.
The Hindu scriptures shouldn't be treated like the Qur'an.
Hinduism shouldn't be treated like any variation of the Abrahamic religions and sects.
And you shouldn't be the one to tell what Hindus should or shouldn't do.
I never said that Vedas or any other Hinduism scripture should be discarded. Did I? Please quote from me if I ever said. Right? Please.
Regards
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
These could be compressed for an ordinary man and only references provided in the original one.
There is a problem, Paarsurrey. Even if it was possible to compress all present knowledge of Hinduism in a Zip file, it will become another Ahle-kitab religion. It will loose the freedom and flexibility which we have now. That is a precious thing, and I do not think Hindus will trade it for a book. But you go ahead with your studies. After you finish that, I suggest you spend some time with the Upanishads. They are jewels of Hinduism. Bhagawat Gita is a veritable Kohinoor.

I guarantee to the members in this topic. Paarsurrey is absolutely serious about Hinduism. You have perhaps not understood him correctly. Otherwise he would not have read 13 chapters of YajurVeda. That is not easy reading.
 
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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Particularly because India, after all, has a very large number of Muslims. But I fear that such a view will have trouble finding appeal outside of the Muslim readership.
:) That is not correct, Luis. Hindu scriptures are available in Urdu in India, Many translated by Muslims. Just as Paarsurrey has interest in Hindu scriptures, other Muslims also have been interested in them. Even Emperor Akbar was interested in them and had regular religious discussions with people from all religions. A very important person in this exercise was the eldest son of Emperor Shahjahan, Prince Dara Shikoh. He got Upanishads translated by his scholars. That translation was named as 'Sirr-e-Akbar (The Great Mystery). Unfortunately, he was killed by his fundamentalist younger brother, Aurangzeb, who was instrumental in demolishing the power of Mughal empire. The library was burnt down by a Persian invader, Ahmad Shah Abdali.

Akbar's special palace for religious discussions, Akbar used to sit in the center. the upper balconies were occupied by senior scholars, and the lesser ones used to sit on the ground floor. Prince Dara Shikoh's library (1643 - Modified by later British occupants)

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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Urdu Ramayana, Urdu Mahabharata, Urdu Gita. Do not forget that just a few centuries ago, Persian was the medium of instruction in North India. My father-in-law, who hailed from Lahore, knew Urdu only (and a little of English).

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Urdu Ramayana, Urdu Mahabharata, Urdu Gita. Do not forget that just a few centuries ago, Persian was the medium of instruction in North India. My father-in-law, who hailed from Lahore, knew Urdu only (and a little of English).

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Thanks very much. Do you know reading urdu in Persian alphabetic as in your attachment. Please provide me Yajurveda and Rigveda online/PDF link in Urdu in Persian alphabetic.
Regards
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
Every Hindu sect could make its own Concise or Compressed Scriptures, if they like, on the same pattern and lines as we will suggest so that everybody of their sect benefits from it. Reading it will strengthen them in their faith and religion in totality will become stronger than having no-faith altogether. Right? Please
Regards

Will you kindly tell me who this 'we' is/are?
 
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