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Evidence of NOAH's FLOOD

SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Subduction Zone said:
What "false accusations"? If you cannot name any when people ask you for them you are only admitting that there were none. So far you have only admitted that I have not made false accusations by running away.


What is that even supposed to mean?

I am not afraid to answer that question, but you cannot even justify asking it. If you want to ask that question you have to show that it somehow matters. So far you have not been able to do that.

To demand answers you need to be honest. Running away from debates that you have lost and then claiming that you won is not honest. Refusing to support your claims when people demand support is not honest. Moving the goalposts is not honest. I could go on and on.

Change your debating style and then you can demand answers.
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Where did the universe come from?

I tell you what you can give up to 10 answers if you like and not just 1.
None will stand of course.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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SavedByTheLord said:
Where did the universe come from?

I tell you what you can give up to 10 answers if you like and not just 1.
None will stand of course.
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You need to be able to justify your questions. When you cannot do so others are not running away from you . I have told you many times that I can justify my questions. Not only can you not justify your questions more than once I have answered your questions and you apparently ignored those answers. That alone precludes you from demanding answers.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Subduction Zone said:
If your God exist his creation tells you that it is billions of years old and that life is the product of evolution. That is unless you want to clam that God is a liar again.
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It does not. That is the false conclusion of deceived people.
False accusations by you prove the Bible is true.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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SavedByTheLord said:
It does not. That is the false conclusion of deceived people.
False accusations by you prove the Bible is true.
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I need to remind you that you do not understand the scientific method and that you actively refuse to learn how science is done and the concept of scientific evidence. Your refusal to support your claims that need support only refutes your own claims.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Subduction Zone said:
I need to remind you that you do not understand the scientific method and that you actively refuse to learn how science is done and the concept of scientific evidence. Your refusal to support your claims that need support only refutes your own claims.
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Still playing games to evade the truth that evolution and billions of years are false.
You do not understand science, the scientific method, logic, math and the Bible,
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
Still playing games to evade the truth that evolution and billions of years are false.
You do not understand science, the scientific method, logic, math and the Bible,
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More projection. I am dead serious. You need to learn how to debate properly. Everyone can see what you are doing wrong here.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Subduction Zone said:
More projection. I am dead serious. You need to learn how to debate properly. Everyone can see what you are doing wrong here.
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Evading again because you have no real answer. That is because you are deceived by Satan.
The no God assumption leads to the no Satan assumption and that allows Satan to deceive.

Where and when did the first living creature come into being?
 
blü 2

blü 2

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Monty said:
I'm simply presenting evidence that the Hebrew bible obviously only describes a river flood which was only 15 cubits high, and that the story about a global flood in the false bibles is just pure fantasy with zero credibility since the story says that Noah's pet bird plucked a leaf off an olive tree which was growing outside the flooded area and therefore totally unaffected by the flood which drowned most of Noah's family and their goats and sheep (Gen 8:11).
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But all translations of the Tanakh ─ including Young ─ plainly say that (a) the Flood covered the tops of all the high mountains and (b) did so to a depth of 15 cubits.

We're not discussing whether there was such a Flood or not. Clearly there was not, and clearly the bible story is a version of the Akkadian / Babylonian flood story which they got from the Sumerians before 2000 BCE. And we might reasonably hypothesize that the Sumerian story derives from a flood on the Tigris or Euphrates at some earlier time, and even point to geological evidence that indeed there were possible candidate floods in distant antiquity.

But that won't alter what the Tanakh says.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
Evading again because you have no real answer. That is because you are deceived by Satan.
The no God assumption leads to the no Satan assumption and that allows Satan to deceive.
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Nope. I am not the evader. I am willing to support my claims that need to be supported. You run away where even you realize that you are wrong. That is why I keep offering to go over your arguments that you have lost and it is why you keep running away.
SavedByTheLord said:
Where and when did the first living creature come into being?
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Did you see the title of this thread? By moving the goalposts that far you have only admitted that you are wrong again.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
blü 2 said:
But all translations of the Tanakh ─ including Young ─ plainly say that (a) the Flood covered the tops of all the high mountains and (b) did so to a depth of 15 cubits.

We're not discussing whether there was such a Flood or not. Clearly there was not, and clearly the bible story is a version of the Akkadian / Babylonian flood story which they got from the Sumerians before 2000 BCE. And we might reasonably hypothesize that the Sumerian story derives from a flood on the Tigris or Euphrates at some earlier time, and even point to geological evidence that indeed there were possible candidate floods in distant antiquity.

But that won't alter what the Tanakh says.
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Not the King James Bible.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: - Genesis 7:18-21
 
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Monty

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blü 2 said:
But all translations of the Tanakh ─ including Young ─ plainly say that (a) the Flood covered the tops of all the high mountains and (b) did so to a depth of 15 cubits.

We're not discussing whether there was such a Flood or not. Clearly there was not, and clearly the bible story is a version of the Akkadian / Babylonian flood story which they got from the Sumerians before 2000 BCE. And we might reasonably hypothesize that the Sumerian story derives from a flood on the Tigris or Euphrates at some earlier time, and even point to geological evidence that indeed there were possible candidate floods in distant antiquity.

But that won't alter what the Tanakh says.
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Nonsense. Have you actually read Young's literal translation, which clearly says that the flood height was only 15 cubits, and DOES NOT say that the high mountains were covered by 15 cubits? Same same for the Jewish bible

Genesis 7:20 YLT -
fifteen cubits upwards have the waters become mighty, and the mountains are covered;

Berei**** (Genesis): Chapter 7
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
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https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/berei****-genesis-chapter-7
 
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Monty

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SavedByTheLord said:
Not the King James Bible.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: - Genesis 7:18-21
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IOW the bible clearly says that the river flood height was only 15 cubits, which is why the olive tree was unaffected by the river flood since it was growing outside the flooded area (Gen 8:11).
 
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