McBell
Unbound
Based upon his posts in this and other threads: No, he does not.
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Evolution and Creationism both have equal value and scientific evidence to support them.
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Danmac
Well-Known Member
He is talking about the end of the world here. This is the Olivet discourse. Try not to take things out of context.
He is speaking metaphorically. He did that often you know.
John 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
They did see him coming into his kingdom.
Acts1: 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
He is talking about the end of the world. If you had backed up a few verses you would have known that.
Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Again this is the Olivet discourse. He is speaking of the end of the world.
Yes it is passing away. Does this verse give a date?
Amen sister
One thing you must understand about scripture. Sometimes it speaks metaphorically and sometimes literally. You are not spiritually equipped to make the distinction.
1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
I am attacking ideas not scientists. I have no problem with the data. I have a problem when they interpret that data thru the eyeglasses of presupposition.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
"Originally Posted by Danmac
I know I'm gonna regret this, but here goes. I accept the scientific method............................ I don't care for the way some data is interpreted that's all."
Translation: I am all for science and everything it makes possible. I just want to keep believing my mythology. But I am such a weak believer that I NEED science to confirm my faith. So when it conflicts with my mythology I reject it.
But I am a fully rational person. Really. I am.
Does science say there is no God?
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
but you can?
Genesis is literal while the words of the apostles are metaphorical?
wa:do
sonofskeptish
It is what it is
The quote is from this wonderful video...
2 of 6 - A Special Creation (The Lie of Horse & Whale Evolution) - Billy Crone#
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Danmac
Well-Known Member
I possess the Spirit of God. Therefore I am capable.
Lu 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But the man with spiritual insight is able to understand everything, although he himself is understood by no one.
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
I had no idea that you were a prophet of god. You realize you are claiming an awful lot of religious authority here. Even the most authoritative religious figure professes a love for the mystery of the Bible.
once again, your humility astounds me.
wa:do
Danmac
Well-Known Member
I gave you scripture that says "all" who posses the spirit can discern the Spirit. I have no human ability, my ability is of the Spirit, which is God's. If credit is to be given it is yto be given to the Spirit, not me. I am merely a vessel.
Wotan
Active Member
Science is silent on the question of god, as well it should be. By definition supernatural events or beings are out side the realm of scientific investigation.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
So why are you using science to dismiss God ?
Wotan
Active Member
I use science to dismiss your primitive mythology.
There MAY be some vast intelligence behind all this. I don't know no one does.
But we CAN say that this myth about a bronze age war god who approved slavery and plans to burn people forever because he LOVES them is a just that - a MYTH. The Iliad has more fact and reason than this collection of contradictory confusing erroneous and mistranslated crapolla you worship.
And oh BTW, your claim that you have some spacial power to understand this nonsense is very interesting. Just WHY should the word of this all beneficent being who is SO concerned with the welfare of us all - WHY should his communication be so obscure?
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Danmac
Well-Known Member
I use science to dismiss your primitive mythology.
There MAY be some vast intelligence behind all this. I don't know no one does.
But we CAN say that this myth about a bronze age war god who approved slavery and plans to burn people forever because he LOVES them is a just that - a MYTH. The Iliad has more fact and reason than this collection of contradictory confusing erroneous and mistranslated crapolla you worship.
If science does not address "God". what are you basing your "OPINION" on?
Wotan
Active Member
Science gives us more than ample evidence that YOUR god thing is a myth. The earth is old, the universe vastly older. There is zero evidence anywhere for ANY intervention by this god thing at any time on behalf of anybody. It has NEVER made any attempt to demonstrate its existence in any manner that actually would establish itself.
EVERYTHING we "know"about this thing comes for human intelligence. There is not a single artifact or report regarding this thing's existence that wasn't produced by some human.
The universe we see is absolutely indifferent to us. And vast parts of it are hostile to life. Nearly 2/3 of this earth which was supposedly created for us is unfit for us and we can only go those places by using special equipment. Which we had to invent.
This whole show may be orchestrated. But we are most certainly not a significant part of the score.
Danmac
Well-Known Member
I thought you said science doesn't concern itself with God.
Wotan
Active Member
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Still waiting on any evidence at all that Creationism is as equally valid scientifically as the Theory of Evolution............
sonofskeptish
It is what it is
You'll be waiting a looooooong time.
DeitySlayer
President of Chindia
Science doesn't concern itself with the existence of higher powers that may or may not have created the Universe. However, science concerns itself with the material world. The evidence in the material world clearly shows a naturalistic evolution in cosmological, geological, chemical and biological terms. A literal reading of the Bible, what you propose as 'God', is directly contrary to this.
A God may exist. But he did not create this world in an instant, nor did he create it within the past 10,000 years. If this is an attribute you require of your God, then your God is false.