EVOLUTION, what a lie.

[McBell]

wow.
Ya'll still wasting time with these clowns?
I applaud your patience.
However I sincerely believe that Fatihah is beyond the ability to learn anything that he thinks contradicts his beliefs.

 

[Fatihah]

exactly the same post you cited just a second ago, and NO WHERE does she say "the ToE is not true". you are a liar

*edit* let me add the post in question, and you tell me where she said "ToE is not true"
as you can plainly see, no where does she say "the ToE is not true". it is YOU, Fatinah, who said it, and even then, you were lying in saying that she was the one who said it. you are indeed a dedicated liar, you will lie about lies. you are liar, and the proof is right there in black and white.

Response: That's proof that you can't comprehend.

 

[Fatihah]

wow.
Ya'll still wasting time with these clowns?
I applaud your patience.
However I sincerely believe that Fatihah is beyond the ability to learn anything that he thinks contradicts his beliefs.

Response: Likewise.

 

[McBell]

Response: Likewise.

 

[JMorris]

Response: That's proof that you can't comprehend.

as i thought, you couldnt point out where she said "ToE is not true" because its not there, you are a liar.

 

[Autodidact]

Response: Post 1734 of page 174.

Is your problem maybe reading comprehension?

Can you reproduce a post where I. SAID. EVOLUTION. IS. NOT. TRUE.

Would it help if I asked 20 times? How about if I use large colored fonts.

Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you're not a liar. Maybe you're just really, really stupid.

 

[Autodidact]

Response: Likewise.

And similarly, you cannot find a single post in which JMorris has lied. You have told outright lies about both of us. We should sue you for slander; we'd win.

 

[McBell]

Maybe I was wrong. Maybe you're not a liar. Maybe you're just really, really stupid.

I will bet money it is a combination of the two...

 

[Ghostaka]

where does she say "ToE is not true"? if you cannot point to where she said that, you are a liar, and as it isnt there, YOU ARE A LIAR!

Are you trying to point at something that is not there?

What are you trying to prove? You are clowning yourself right now .

Peace be upon you.

 

[Autodidact]

[QUOTE Jose Fly]And you can't see something if you refuse to look, even if it exists.(End Quote)

Response: True.

(Quote JoseFly)
Ah, so would it be rational to say the Quran is full of lies and Mohammed was a fraud, even if I've never read the Quran or studied anything about Mohammed?(End Quote)

Response: Not at all.

(Quote JoseFly)
But you're forgetting, I've seen it with my own eyes. How can I say it doesn't exist, if it's right here in my back yard?(End Quote)

Response: Exactly.

(Quote JoseFly)
But don't worry about that. As we've established, arguing about the data is a waste of time and misses the real issue here. So let's drop the discussion of whether or not new species have evolved or if anyone has seen it happen.


So would you call yourself open-minded about evolution?(End Quote)

Response: Yes. Are you open-minded about the truth of Allah?

Fatihah, you are the most onbnoxiously hard-headed person I've ever met. In this thread, we accept the truth of Allah. Please try to stop hijacking this thread about evolution. btw, should I just start out saying everything 20 times and then repeating in large colored fonts, to save time? Because this is at least the 30th time I've said this in this thread. Allah is real. Allah is the creator. Allah created all things...including evolution.

 

[Autodidact]

Response: That's proof that you can't comprehend.

The proof would be quoting a post in which I say that ToE isn't true. Anything else would not be proof, it would be a LIE.

 

[Autodidact]

So, Fatihah, as I was saying before this latest re-run, every breed of dog has existed for all time? Is that right?

And the number of species is constantly decreasing, right?

 

[Fatihah]

Fatihah, you are the most onbnoxiously hard-headed person I've ever met. In this thread, we accept the truth of Allah. Please try to stop hijacking this thread about evolution. btw, should I just start out saying everything 20 times and then repeating in large colored fonts, to save time? Because this is at least the 30th time I've said this in this thread. Allah is real. Allah is the creator. Allah created all things...including evolution.

Response: You also don't believe what you've just said so the whole statement is pointless.

 

[Autodidact]

Are you trying to point at something that is not there?

What are you trying to prove? You are clowning yourself right now .

Peace be upon you.

I'll lay it out for you:

Fatihah said that I said that ToE is not true. This is not the case, as I have never said this. JMorris and I challenged him to produce a post of me saying this. He can't, as I have never said any such thing. Instead he quoted his own post in which he accuses me of implying this, because he doesn't understand the first thing about how science works, and is not capable of learning anything that complicated. Therefore, it is clear that Fatihah was lying. However, due to a personality defect, he cannot acknowledge his own error, so clings to his assertion as if it were factual.

This is consistent with his amazing ability to deny reality. Not only can he not see things that are there, but he can also see things that are not there.

I've got it: it's not dishonesty, and it's not stupidity. It's insanity. That's the only explanation.

 

[JMorris]

Are you trying to point at something that is not there?

What are you trying to prove? You are clowning yourself right now .

Peace be upon you.

:sarcastic so when Fatinah claims that Autodidact said "ToE is not true". and the cite he uses to try and prove that she said it, does not in fact include her saying "ToE is not true"; would you say that is not a lie? one fundie defending another against the truth, hardly suprising. if you are saying he is NOT LYING then you are a LIAR as well, big suprise.

:banghead3

 

[Fatihah]

So, Fatihah, as I was saying before this latest re-run, every breed of dog has existed for all time? Is that right?

And the number of species is constantly decreasing, right?

Response: What is the purpose of your question? You've said many times that science is not about proof. So why even have this dialogue? I'm asking for proof, you don't have it, as you have clearly said that science is not about proof.

 

[JMorris]

Response: What is the purpose of your question? You've said many times that science is not about proof. So why even have this dialogue? I'm asking for proof, you don't have it, as you have clearly said that science is not about proof.

how is she going to force you to go see it yourself?
people have told you repeatedly that you can go see it, and you have said repeatedly that you will only believe it if you see it.
and you have also said repeatedly that you refuse to even make any attempt to go see it for yourself.
so if proof to you = seeing it happen yourself, how is she (or science) going to force you to go see it yourself, when you refuse to go do it?

your say god created the the earth and every thing on it.
according to you, you only believe the things you see for yourself.
so how can you believe in creation when you never saw it for yourself?
how is creation an acceptable alternative to the ToE, in your opinion?
you never saw it happen yourself.

 

[Fatihah]

I'll lay it out for you:

Fatihah said that I said that ToE is not true. This is not the case, as I have never said this. JMorris and I challenged him to produce a post of me saying this. He can't, as I have never said any such thing. Instead he quoted his own post in which he accuses me of implying this, because he doesn't understand the first thing about how science works, and is not capable of learning anything that complicated. Therefore, it is clear that Fatihah was lying. However, due to a personality defect, he cannot acknowledge his own error, so clings to his assertion as if it were factual.

This is consistent with his amazing ability to deny reality. Not only can he not see things that are there, but he can also see things that are not there.

I've got it: it's not dishonesty, and it's not stupidity. It's insanity. That's the only explanation.

Response: Even more unfortunate is when you have to lie that you didn't say something. Then when we add to the fact that your own words demonstrate that ToE is not true, it's quite compelling.

 

[Fatihah]

:sarcastic so when Fatinah claims that Autodidact said "ToE is not true". and the cite he uses to try and prove that she said it, does not in fact include her saying "ToE is not true"; would you say that is not a lie? one fundie defending another against the truth, hardly suprising. if you are saying he is NOT LYING then you are a LIAR as well, big suprise.

:banghead3

Response: And when a person constantly demonstrates that they can't comprehend and has to lie on top of it, it reveals the desperate cry of a defeated person.

 

[JMorris]

[QUOTE Autodidact]So it's quite possible to conclude that something exists, without you actually see it, if there is enough evidence, is that right?(End Quote)

Response: That's correct. But not all things. And ToE is one of them.

(Quote Autodidact)
btw, how does your electrical equipment verify the existence of atoms?(End Quote)

Response: The fact that it turns on and off.


(/QUOTE Autodidact) That's not what we're looking for. At this point, you're denying that new species come into existence at all. If you see a bug that previously did not exist, it would prove that new species come into existence, which you are denying. Clearly, you are too chicken to actually look, because then you would see something that if you accept, condemns you to Hell. Safer to stay home than take a chance on accepting reality.(End quote)

Response: What is clear is your denial of the fact that your belief in ToE is simply because a some scientists said it was true. You have no proof that it's true...Wait...I just realized something...

Throughout this conversation you've consistantly said that science is not about proof!! (Post 1248 of page 124) So from your own mouth....ToE is not true! There's no need to even go any further. And before you go on your rant of saying that it's not about proof, but evidence, in if the evidence is to confirm something is the truth...It's called proof. That's what the word "proof" means. And you have consistantly said ToE and science itself is not about proof. So your own words show that ToE is not thr truth. So there's no need to go on.

one last time to redeem yourself. where in the above post does she say "ToE is not true"? where? please point this out, pleeeeeeeeeease, i really want to see if you can do it.