Explain this logically christians....

[9-10ths_Penguin]

On European calendars, the seventh day is Sunday. I'm just sayin'.

So God is European?

 

[Kathryn]

God can be European whenever He wants to be.

 

[Commoner]

From my limited human perspective, I cannot fully grasp the concept of living in a state of perfection.

Pffff...

Obviously, yet you assume such a thing is possible. You know, you seem to be making a lot of assumptions and a lot of claims for someone of such a limited perspective.

 

[Beta]

Well then is church service, which is usually held on Sundays a violation since this would be considered a "work day" for preachers, priests etc?

Does anyone have instructions to keep sunday the 1st day of the week ' holy ' ???
They have no scripture for it - make your own conclusion ! :no:

 

[Beta]

God can be European whenever He wants to be.

The God of the Bible is the God of Israel.
He is the same yesterday , today and for ever.
He is God and not man - He is God and does not change.
But we should bear in mind that not all 'Israelites ' are jewish.
Israel/Jacob had 10 sons and not all were jewish. We can not assume they were European either. :help:

So where and who are ' the lost sheep of Israel ' ????
Since the 'Jews' are not lost scripture can not mean them.

 

[Kathryn]

Pffff...

Obviously, yet you assume such a thing is possible. You know, you seem to be making a lot of assumptions and a lot of claims for someone of such a limited perspective.

The only thing I have "claimed" is what I believe. What I believe may or may not be true. I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone, or even necessarily claiming that I am right. I'm just describing my faith.

Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

2 Corinthians 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

 

[Koldo]

From my limited human perspective, I cannot fully grasp the concept of living in a state of perfection.

What matters is whether you believe in it or not.

 

[Kathryn]

What matters is whether you believe in it or not.

What should matter to you and others is that I live my life responsibly and that I treat others as I would like to be treated myself. My spiritual life and my personal beliefs support those endeavors. It's all good.

 

[Koldo]

What matters is that I live my life responsibly and that I treat others as I would like to be treated myself.

Seriously, i was talking about belief in paradise, and you completely sidetracked. Congratulations....

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

From my limited human perspective, I cannot fully grasp the concept of living in a state of perfection.

But you do acknowledge that whatever that state is, you'll either have free will or you won't, right?

Whether you have it or not, it creates problems for the argument that God allows suffering out of a desire to not impede free will.

 

[ninerbuff]

Does anyone have instructions to keep sunday the 1st day of the week ' holy ' ???
They have no scripture for it - make your own conclusion ! :no:

They have services on Saturday too.
Also Saturday happens to be a day where the majority of people (at least in the US) are off work, so a "day of rest" ends up being a day where they do things like shopping, partying, working on the yard, etc. are norms. Are all these christian people in violation of keeping the sabbath day holy?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Does anyone have instructions to keep sunday the 1st day of the week ' holy ' ???
They have no scripture for it - make your own conclusion ! :no:

Do you have scripture telling you which scripture you should consider the one to follow?

Or scripture that says that all decisions have to be based on scripture?

 

[Commoner]

What should matter to you and others is that I live my life responsibly and that I treat others as I would like to be treated myself. My spiritual life and my personal beliefs support those endeavors. It's all good.

What you consider "responsible" will necessarily depend on your beliefs. Whether or not those beliefs are true therefore matters... a lot. Do you disagree?

 

[Beta]

They have services on Saturday too.
Also Saturday happens to be a day where the majority of people (at least in the US) are off work, so a "day of rest" ends up being a day where they do things like shopping, partying, working on the yard, etc. are norms. Are all these christian people in violation of keeping the sabbath day holy?

Yes all these ' christians ' are doing ' their own thing ' on GOD's sanctified and holy day. The bible is not just talking about a day of rest but attending a commanded assembly before the Lord Lev.23. These instructions were given well after the original requirement to rest. Perhaps all these devout christians don't read the Bible.

 

[Beta]

Do you have scripture telling you which scripture you should consider the one to follow?

Or scripture that says that all decisions have to be based on scripture?

Whichever way one tries to figure round it 2Tim.3v16 is quite clear it should all be considered. How about 2Cor.10v5 ? This should help sort out our doubts or ignorance :help:!

 

[ninerbuff]

Yes all these ' christians ' are doing ' their own thing ' on GOD's sanctified and holy day. The bible is not just talking about a day of rest but attending a commanded assembly before the Lord Lev.23. These instructions were given well after the original requirement to rest. Perhaps all these devout christians don't read the Bible.

So why do most christian churches hold mass on Sunday instead of Saturday?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yes all these ' christians ' are doing ' their own thing ' on GOD's sanctified and holy day. The bible is not just talking about a day of rest but attending a commanded assembly before the Lord Lev.23. These instructions were given well after the original requirement to rest. Perhaps all these devout christians don't read the Bible.

Or perhaps they read the whole thing. Doesn't your Bible have Romans 14 and Colossians 2?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Whichever way one tries to figure round it 2Tim.3v16 is quite clear it should all be considered. How about 2Cor.10v5 ? This should help sort out our doubts or ignorance :help:!

What about them? They don't seem relevant.

 

[waitasec]

Whichever way one tries to figure round it 2Tim.3v16 is quite clear it should all be considered. How about 2Cor.10v5 ? This should help sort out our doubts or ignorance :help:!

how about...
1 thess 4:11 Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life....
had y'all done this i wouldn't be complaining about your hunger for control over my choices...

so what's the problem....faith isn't enough?

 

[Beta]

So why do most christian churches hold mass on Sunday instead of Saturday?

Have you asked one of them ???? And while you are at it ask them for scriptural support , not some twisted meaning of their own.