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Flirting vs. Sexual Harassment

PureX

Veteran Member
It seems that nowadays the lines between flirting and sexual harassment are becoming increasingly blurred. Now, before I say anything more, I believe there is a very important distinction to make between sexual harassment and sexual assault. Sexual assault involves physical contact and is absolutely wrong. A man should never touch a woman without her consent.

However, it seems that today, even complimenting a woman's appearance (especially if she is a stranger or distant acquaintance of the man and not a friend) could lead to being seen as creepy and in some environments (office, for instance) could lead to accusations of sexual harassment.
I guess maybe it's time that we stopped going around judging and commenting on other people's appearance. I mean, why did we ever think that was OK?
Here is my controversial, yet very simple assessment of the situation...
Look, you can flirt with whomever, however, you want to. But it's not always going to be "OK" with them. Especially if you're openly judging their appearance. They may call you a jerk and tell you to "bugger off". And if it's in the workplace, they may do something worse. So it's probably wise to keep your opinions of how other people look to yourself, and your flirtations away from the workplace. And is that really so much for our culture to ask?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
@metis
Nowadays average Sicilian woman (like her) have a different attitude ;):p

LOL! BTW, I had to almost cover my eyes.

Also, she looks she's more from the north. ;)

You'd probably not guess my wife's from Sicily if you saw here since she has light skin and red hair. But. after all, even the Vikings controlled Sicily at one time, and I gotta feeling they did a lot more than just eat bacalao.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I guess maybe it's time that we stopped going around judging and commenting on other people's appearance. I mean, why did we ever think that was OK?
Blame Darwin, he started the whole evolution thing that makes us judge on appearance and finding some people more attractive than the other. God-damned genes, they ruin everything.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Huh?
Ummm..... yes. The Oedipus thing is not uncommon, so they say.
Both ways.

I was watching a made in Hong Kong movie
called "Rave Fever", and the actress Jaymee Ong
told this guy, "I would not have shagged you if I
did not love you."
So I looked it up in urban dictionary, "Shag".
Ah ok..
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Blame Darwin, he started the whole evolution thing that makes us judge on appearance and finding some people more attractive than the other. God-damned genes, they ruin everything.
Being human, though, means we could keep those judgments to ourselves. In fact, we could ignore them all together.
 
It seems that nowadays the lines between flirting and sexual harassment are becoming increasingly blurred. Now, before I say anything more, I believe there is a very important distinction to make between sexual harassment and sexual assault. Sexual assault involves physical contact and is absolutely wrong. A man should never touch a woman without her consent.

However, it seems that today, even complimenting a woman's appearance (especially if she is a stranger or distant acquaintance of the man and not a friend) could lead to being seen as creepy and in some environments (office, for instance) could lead to accusations of sexual harassment.

Here is my controversial, yet very simple assessment of the situation. If a guy approaches a woman and she thinks he's handsome, it's perfectly acceptable flirting. If a guy approaches a woman (and says the same things as guy #1) and she thinks he's ugly, then he's a creep and in some cases even a sexual "harasser." Creepy and confident have the same definition, except that creepy guys are ugly and confident guys are handsome. Thus, unattractive men that approach women in the office will risk losing their jobs, but attractive men will not (ever notice that nearly all the male celebrities fired for sexual harassment are old and unattractive, and none of them look like Brad Pitt?). But, how can a male know if a female finds him attractive unless he approaches her? Perhaps women should start approaching men instead. This would resolve the problems.

Thoughts? Do you have any better way of distinguishing between flirting and harassment? Let's see it.

If i a woman reports any man, ugly or not for complementing her, thats wrong. If she says "thanks but, not interested" and he persists, THEN its harrasement.

Thats reality.

But, this world is upside down to reality!
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I don't think that is possible. Sexual selection is what it is. We evolved to seek out certain successful traits in a sexual partner. It's genetic and this imperative is strong in us.

I'm only attracted to people who agree to watch Star Trek with me but who don't actually like Star Trek.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
As I see it, it depends on what your intentions are. If you just want to get laid, then it is definitely a terrible idea to make advances. However, if what you seek is a long-term relationship there is really no problem as long you can let it go if you get rejected.
No. Seeking out long-term relationships with co-workers is also not okay.
 
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