Freemasonry and Satanism

[Estro Felino]

Oh, if you only knew what you were talking about. Humility with regard to wealth is fundamental for freemasons.

Dear Sojourner, I do know what I am talking about. Immense love and big thirst for justice are the sense of my life.
Selfishness rules this Earth, and I can't do but remark that people's hearts are covered with dirt and mud. They will never be clean, not even in their Afterlife.

 

[sojourner]

Whoever creates covenants with other people to get richer and richer at cost of the low classes' poverty, they are Satanists.

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Well, there ya go. Proof positive that freemasons are not satanists. We don't "create covenants with other people to get richer...at cost of the low classes' poverty." In fact, we make promises that provide for the poor.

 

[sojourner]

Dear Sojourner, I do know what I am talking about. Immense love and big thirst for justice are the sense of my life.
Selfishness rules this Earth, and I can't do but remark that people's hearts are covered with dirt and mud. They will never be clean, not even in their Afterlife.

This statement:

Lots of Freemasons worship money-

shows that you do NOT know what you're talking about.

 

[Estro Felino]

This statement:

shows that you do NOT know what you're talking about.

I can read in people's hearts, so I maybe know them much better than they know themselves.

and I don't understand why you want to defend Italian Freemasons at any cost.
are they relatives of yours?

 

[sojourner]

I can read in people's hearts, so I maybe know them much better than they know themselves.

I doubt that. Based on what I see here, your judgment is too clouded by your own emotional reaction to what you perceive.

and I don't understand why you want to defend Italian Freemasons at any cost.
are they relatives of yours?

I defend Fremasonry, because I know firsthand what it is and what it is not. And yes, all freemasons are my brothers; I have their backs, and they have mine.

 

[Estro Felino]

it is not. And yes, all freemasons are my brothers; I have their backs, and they have mine.

if they conspire against the common welfare, do they still remain your brothers?
even if they live beyond the Atlantic?

 

[1137]

I can read in people's hearts, so I maybe know them much better than they know themselves.

and I don't understand why you want to defend Italian Freemasons at any cost.
are they relatives of yours?

You can read their hearts? Hearts don't tell you anything about an individual except cardiovascular health, pulse, things like that.

 

[Estro Felino]

You can read their hearts? Hearts don't tell you anything about an individual except cardiovascular health, pulse, things like that.

it's a metaphor
I mean that I can tell if a soul is good or evil, if it's full of hatred or full of love.
if it's full of selfishness, or full of altruism

 

[1137]

it's a metaphor
I mean that I can tell if a soul is good or evil, if it's full of hatred or full of love.
if it's full of selfishness, or full of altruism

So you believe you've objectively answered questions that neither science or logic have answered in thousands of years and are in possession of supernatural powers that allow you a superior position relative to others including above one's own self?

I see why you left ego of the list ^_^

 

[Nakosis]

Nobody can deny that the most powerful bankers in the world join the several international Freemasonries.
Even Mario Draghi, President of the ECB, joins Freemasonry.

Freemasonry is rumored to worship Satan and to establish initiation rituals , which are Satanic rituals
Rumors or Truth?

I knew one person claiming to be a Freemason. He said they had some initiations kind of like fraternity stuff. Mostly though it was a business network. They assist and support in business other members. If they need work done, there were bids, Freemasons accept the bids of other Freemasons. He didn't seem to imply anything more sinister going on.

 

[1137]

I knew one person claiming to be a Freemason. He said they had some initiations kind of like fraternity stuff. Mostly though it was a business network. They assist and support in business other members. If they need work done, there were bids, Freemasons accept the bids of other Freemasons. He didn't seem to imply anything more sinister going on.

I believe the issue is this business aspect. Money is involved, so obviously it is sinister. This is a common view among hard core "spiritualists" from what I've seen. Anti-materialism pretty much, which they complain about on their laptops and smart phones that they bought with a spell tome of restoration.

Holy **** I need to stop playing Skyrim on my weekends.

 

[Drolefille]

it's a metaphor
I mean that I can tell if a soul is good or evil, if it's full of hatred or full of love.
if it's full of selfishness, or full of altruism

Read my soul then.

 

[Nakosis]

I believe the issue is this business aspect. Money is involved, so obviously it is sinister. This is a common view among hard core "spiritualists" from what I've seen. Anti-materialism pretty much, which they complain about on their laptops and smart phones that they bought with a spell tome of restoration.

Holy **** I need to stop playing Skyrim on my weekends.

That's just the way it is. People feel justified in supporting their "tribe". People go out of their way to help other members of their group. Political/religious, just the nature of people.

Being non-group oriented, I get along with most. Help for the sake of helping and deal with everyone as fairly as I can.

Up to each person to balance wealth with compassion.

 

[Nakosis]

Read my soul then.

You wish to live a peaceful, happy life.
:danana:

 

[1137]

That's just the way it is. People feel justified in supporting their "tribe". People go out of their way to help other members of their group. Political/religious, just the nature of people.

Being non-group oriented, I get along with most. Help for the sake of helping and deal with everyone as fairly as I can.

Up to each person to balance wealth with compassion.

It's more than just an in-group/out-group issue with conspiracy theories like this.

 

[Nakosis]

It's more than just an in-group/out-group issue with conspiracy theories like this.

As in going out of your way to harm other groups?

I haven't seen any reason to believe this of Freemasons.

 

[1137]

As in going out of your way to harm other groups?

I haven't seen any reason to believe this of Freemasons.

I'm talking about the nature of conspiracy theorists, not the groups they pick on.

 

[Estro Felino]

So you believe you've objectively answered questions that neither science or logic have answered in thousands of years and are in possession of supernatural powers that allow you a superior position relative to others including above one's own self?

I see why you left ego of the list ^_^

Dear mister, I have just empathy. Besides I am not a psychic. You can't even imagine how much love I have toward mankind. This love produces empathy, that is, I listen to the people's desires and their needs. And I see that there are bad desires and good desires.

It is obvious that selfish people or money-hungry people are not capable of empathy, so they don't think the others are.

 

[1137]

Dear mister, I have just empathy. Besides I am not a psychic. You can't even imagine how much love have toward mankind. This love produces empathy, that is, I listen to the people's desires and their needs. And I see that there are bad desires and good desires.

It is obvious that selfish people or money-hungry people are not capable of empathy, so they don't think the others are.

I've seen both selfish and money hungry people capable of empathy. The only cases where it's not even capable are with sociopaths and other such individuals where the brain won't even allow it. You can just look at all the selfish money lovers who also are very passionate about charitable causes for whatever their reason may be. So I don't think just because someone likes money they're immediately bad, there's many reasons that could be. And everyone is selfish, it's just the way of things.

 

[Estro Felino]

You can just look at all the selfish money lovers who also are very passionate about charitable causes for whatever their reason may be.

Selfishness and Charity are two words that cannot stay in the same sentence