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Another Question: What scriptures do Gaudiyas find literal? Why are they considered so?
I don't understand your question Tereseji. Do you mean which scriptures we see as "authentic?"
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Another Question: What scriptures do Gaudiyas find literal? Why are they considered so?
No literal. Like it actually happened. Like Krishna giving Arjuna the discourse of the Bhagavad Gita. Although i'd like to know what Gaudiyas find authentic also.I don't understand your question Tereseji. Do you mean which scriptures we see as "authentic?"
No literal. Like it actually happened. Like Krishna giving Arjuna the discourse of the Bhagavad Gita. Although i'd like to know what Gaudiyas find authentic also.
All are literal? What of Rama encountering a rakshasa? What of the event when Sri Krishna were told my Agni to burn down the forest, infuriating Indra?All of them. Sruti (Vedas and Upanisads), Smrti (Puranas and Ithihasa including Gita) and Vani (the works of our acharyas) are all generally taken literally (the allegorical meaning is only taken if our acharyas say so). However there are categories within these scriptures too (Srimad Bhagavatam holds excellence over the works of Vyasadev). You should read Tattva Sandarbha by Jiva Goswami because it goes quite well through Gaudiya epistemology.
All are literal? What of Rama encountering a rakshasa? What of the event when Sri Krishna were told my Agni to burn down the forest, infuriating Indra?
Very interesting! Never thought of that. Other universes ay... So you say if an acharya says (insert scripture here) is allegorical, even though you believe all scriptures are literal, how can you accept his words? And what is a Lila Sthalis? Where is Vamsi Vhat?All of them. Every one of the stories in Shastra we believe happened in this universe or another. Some schools like to see the puranas are allegorical stories, but it is the view of the Vaishnav schools (specifically Gaudiyas and Madhavas, not sure about Sri Vaishnavs, maybe ask Kalyanji?) that every word of shastra is literal (unless acharyas say otherwise). I mean, all the Lila Sthalis where Sri Krsna performed His pastimes are all still there (Govardhan, Vamsi Vhat etc).
So you say if an acharya says (insert scripture here) is allegorical, even though you believe all scriptures are literal, how can you accept his words? And what is a Lila Sthalis? Where is Vamsi Vhat?
All are literal? What of Rama encountering a rakshasa? What of the event when Sri Krishna were told my Agni to burn down the forest, infuriating Indra?
No literal. Like it actually happened. Like Krishna giving Arjuna the discourse of the Bhagavad Gita. Although i'd like to know what Gaudiyas find authentic also.
There is a saying. That by the mercy of Krsna you get a Guru and by the mercy of a Guru you then get Krsna.
ur point ?Geography creates a little problem as you will see from the Google Earth image below. The circuit is 53 miles. So, Srimati Radharani could not have visited Lord Krishna in Vrindavana on foot every day from Barsana (her village) for her daliance, nor Lord Krishna could have gone to Vrindavana from Nandagaon (his village) to graze his cows every day, the distance is quite large (though I understand nothing is difficult for the Lord). However, they could have met daily in the vicinity of Barsana and Nandagaon (just about 4 miles) or places like Prem Kund, etc. quite easily.
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Geography creates a little problem as you will see from the Google Earth image below. The circuit is 53 miles. So, Srimati Radharani could not have visited Lord Krishna in Vrindavana on foot every day from Barsana (her village) for her daliance, nor Lord Krishna could have gone to Vrindavana from Nandagaon (his village) to graze his cows every day, the distance is quite large (though I understand nothing is difficult for the Lord). However, they could have met daily in the vicinity of Barsana and Nandagaon (just about 4 miles) or places like Prem Sarovara in Ghazipur quite easily, which is midway between the two villages..
Since 1986, the Vraja Mandala Parikrama held during October–November is in vogue. It follows the same route taken by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu during his visit toVrindavan. Devotees achieve full experience of twelve forests of Vraja, over a period of one month and visit holy tirthas (pilgrimage centres) of Vraja (also spelt/spoken as Braja/Biraja in local parlance). Vraja Mandala comprises twelve forests, known as vans, and twenty-four groves, known as upavans. The twelve forests are Madhuvan, Talavan, Kumudvan, Bahulavan, Kamavan, Khadiravan, Vrindavan, Bhadravan, Bhandiravan, Belvan, Lohavan, and Mahavan. The twenty-four groves are Gokul, Govardhan, Barsana, Nandagram, Sanket, Paramadra, Aring, Sessai, Mat, Uchagram, Kelvan, Sri Kund, Gandharvavan, Parsoli, Bilchhu, Bacchavan, Adibadri, Karahla, Ajnokh, Pisaya, Kokilavan, Dadhigram, Kotvan, and Raval all of which are stated to share in Lord Krishna’s absolute nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parikrama#Vraja_Mandala_parikrama
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I like thiswho said that Govardhan Maharaj is non-different from Sri Krsna and therefore did not want to step on it
My point as always has been that Krishna and his party went to Vrindavana - not daily, but at particular times for a longer period and stayed there for a few weeks like the shepherds to in all regions, an yearly short migration event. Women generally do not accompany men on these journeys.
Not sure but perhaps cows are sent to fatten to the pastures and sent back before birth of the calf. That is what used to happen in my childhood with our cows - since we lived in city... but yes it is possible that they would occasionally travel to better pastures if needs be, .. I can imagine this happening in Krsnas younger days, .. but on the other hand the Milking Cows are kept near to the villages as everyone relied upon and enjoyed their milk, ..