Genesis 2

[outhouse]

Todays biology textbook doesn't have Mankind coming from an egg and sperm originally----It is based upon the myth of evolution.

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Ever seen a human come from something else then egg and sperm?


Evolution is not myth, it is fact.


So I must ask you to supply credible sources for creation, there has to be something a creationist scientist could provide as evidence that tears evolution apart, like one out of place fossil out of billions of fossils.

Where is that one out of place fossil that disproves evolution? hint it doesn't exist. because evolution is fact

 

[Thief]

I'm surprised and amazed the confusion on this one point.

EVERYONE is made of dust.....up from the ground.

Every atom and compound.....all of you...every bit of you.

You have been taken up from the ground and back you will go.

The chemical reaction you wander about it had a beginning.
We may juggle the details at length.

But it had a beginning.

Your participation had a beginning.
Your participation has an end.

The chemical reaction we call Man will continue without you ....awhile longer.

 

[gnostic]

Todays biology textbook doesn't have Mankind coming from an egg and sperm originally----It is based upon the myth of evolution.

:biglaugh:
Everything about evolution is about reproduction, and about generations of the population. Humans didn't just magically appeared out of nowhere, you silly goose. :biglaugh:

And for one, I wasn't talking about evolution, when I was replying to thief. Nor was I talking about the first humans.

I was only talking about basic reproduction in biology, not evolution and not the origin of life. That parents produce a child (or more).

People were not born out of dust (soil or clay), but through the combination of eggs and sperms. Like I said simple biology.

Hence-wise, I told thief to read biology textbook. Did I mention anywhere about evolution in my last post (post 736)?

No, I didn't. I was quite specific about what I was talking about. You are just reading more than I have written...or you are just making assumption of what I saying without bothering to read my post.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

One would think that if creationism were true (which it's not) then we as humans would be made mostly of silicon, like the Earth's crust... But we're not... We're made of Carbon.

 

[Thief]

One would think that if creationism were true (which it's not) then we as humans would be made mostly of silicon, like the Earth's crust... But we're not... We're made of Carbon.

There are rules to chemistry.

Higher life forms and better chemistry....seem the way to go.

Or maybe you have a better plan than the Creator?

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

There are rules to chemistry.

Higher life forms and better chemistry....seem the way to go.

Or maybe you have a better plan than the Creator?

Not really...the chemistry isn't "better"

 

[sincerly]

:biglaugh:
Everything about evolution is about reproduction, and about generations of the population. Humans didn't just magically appeared out of nowhere, you silly goose. :biglaugh:

And for one, I wasn't talking about evolution, when I was replying to thief. Nor was I talking about the first humans.

I was only talking about basic reproduction in biology, not evolution and not the origin of life. That parents produce a child (or more).

People were not born out of dust (soil or clay), but through the combination of eggs and sperms. Like I said simple biology.

Hence-wise, I told thief to read biology textbook. Did I mention anywhere about evolution in my last post (post 736)?

No, I didn't. I was quite specific about what I was talking about. You are just reading more than I have written...or you are just making assumption of what I saying without bothering to read my post.

Gnostic, you are trying to by-pass the "which came first--the chicken or the egg"? in the mankind line of things GOD "Created".

Mankind and all else(Living) isn't just a chemical combination of the elements, but was given "life" which has not been reproduced by those who are determined to by-pass the Creator GOD. Their "Faith" is in the unfounded spectulations of theories.
It takes more "faith" to believe the Theories of man that the Faith to believe "GOD Spake and it stood fast".

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Or maybe you have a better plan than the Creator?

Sure I do...one that doesn't involve people dying of cancer and starvation. Where do I sign up?

 

[outhouse]

EVERYONE is made of dust.....up from the ground.

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No we are not.

We are made of flesh and blood. Our body fluids ressemble sea water very closely since that is where ALL LIFE evolved from.

 

[outhouse]

Mankind and all else(Living) isn't just a chemical combination of the elements, but was given "life" which has not been reproduced by those who are determined to by-pass the Creator GOD.

The problem is you dont have any evidence or proof of this.

Your relying on faith alone, and nothing else.


Do you have any credible sources?????????????????????????????

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by Thief
Or maybe you have a better plan than the Creator?

Sure I do...one that doesn't involve people dying of cancer and starvation. Where do I sign up?

Hi TL, the greater amounts/numbers of deaths is from other things rather than "cancer and starvation".
Had there been Obedience, instead of disobedience, there would not have been any deaths.

Sign up for what?? Your "plan" would have to include the ability to bring it about. No human being has that ability. As the inability to produce life from "nothing" is beyond human capability.

 

[outhouse]

As the inability to produce life from "nothing" is beyond human capability.

Not really, they are getting closer all the time. They have created the basic building blocks already.


Its not as complicated as you would thing. It is chemistry, and time, nothing more.

Had there been Obedience, instead of disobedience, there would not have been any deaths.

Do you have a credible source for this??

 

[gnostic]

Gnostic, you are trying to by-pass the "which came first--the chicken or the egg"? in the mankind line of things GOD "Created".

Mankind and all else(Living) isn't just a chemical combination of the elements, but was given "life" which has not been reproduced by those who are determined to by-pass the Creator GOD. Their "Faith" is in the unfounded spectulations of theories.

Man, we are talking about 2 different things.

I was only talking of simple human reproduction, basic biology. My post is not about evolution (biodiversity) or not about abiogenesis (origin of first life).

Just human reproduction, in which two people (male and female) have sex, the woman would conceive, carry the foetus to term, and eventually give birth.

Hence, a baby is not made out of dust. The egg and sperm are not "dust".

Do you even know what a dust is?

You do understand what human reproduction is, don't you?

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by Thief

EVERYONE is made of dust.....up from the ground.

No we are not.

We are made of flesh and blood. Our body fluids ressemble sea water very closely since that is where ALL LIFE evolved from.

Hi outhouse, even the "flesh and blood" are composed of those "dust particles" called elements.
Adam and Eve did not come from "sea water", but all generations of mankind from those two, did mature from conception to birth in amniotic fluid.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Originally Posted by Thief

EVERYONE is made of dust.....up from the ground.





Hi outhouse, even the "flesh and blood" are composed of those "dust particles" called elements.
Adam and Eve did not come from "sea water", but all generations of mankind from those two, did mature from conception to birth in amniotic fluid.

You do realize that what the human body is composed of is not at all like dust particles...like at all? Like genesis Is talking literal dust because they actually did not know what dust was made off....

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly ...As the inability to produce life from "nothing" is beyond human capability.

Not really, they are getting closer all the time. They have created the basic building blocks already.

Its not as complicated as you would thing. It is chemistry, and time, nothing more.

Hi outhouse, Yes, really. All that mankind has achieved, has been done with material already present. Not the first of the less complex elements has been made to exist from nothing.
Scientist has extended that "time" from an estimated "million years" to greater than seven billion years and still isn't near to producing "life from nothing"---and that is with the basic elemental building blocks by/from which GOD gave life to all living things.

Originally Posted by sincerly Had there been Obedience, instead of disobedience, there would not have been any deaths.

Do you have a credible source for this??

The Scriptures which have proved to be true.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Originally Posted by Thief
Or maybe you have a better plan than the Creator?



Hi TL, the greater amounts/numbers of deaths is from other things rather than "cancer and starvation".
Had there been Obedience, instead of disobedience, there would not have been any deaths.

Sign up for what?? Your "plan" would have to include the ability to bring it about. No human being has that ability. As the inability to produce life from "nothing" is beyond human capability.

So it's our fault that a dirt-man and a rib-woman ate a piece of fruit 6000 years ago? If not, why punish us for it? Also, I'm saying if I did have the means to be a god, I certainly wouldn't just stand there doing nothing while human beings are starving to death and being eaten alive by cancer.

 

[gnostic]

EVERYONE is made of dust.....up from the ground.

Hi outhouse, even the "flesh and blood" are composed of those "dust particles" called elements.
Adam and Eve did not come from "sea water", but all generations of mankind from those two, did mature from conception to birth in amniotic fluid.

The ignorance of creationists never cease to amaze me.

 

[Thief]

The ignorance of creationists never cease to amaze me.

And the blatant dysfunctional denial is stubborn.

Everything you are came up from the ground....all of it.

Is it not common to say that a mother eats for two?

And of what did she partake?....moon rocks?

What was your beginning lay in the ground one full season before your conception.

Drawn from the ground by plant and animal....your mother did partake.

Here you are.......for now.

Back to the ground you shall go.

 

[Thief]

So it's our fault that a dirt-man and a rib-woman ate a piece of fruit 6000 years ago? If not, why punish us for it? Also, I'm saying if I did have the means to be a god, I certainly wouldn't just stand there doing nothing while human beings are starving to death and being eaten alive by cancer.

Death has always been part of the scheme of things.

Fault?....yes of course.
Punishment?....for those that deserve it.

Put as per your post....it is obvious.....
you can't see where the line is drawn between metaphor and literal.