Genesis 2

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly
You ARE dust.

And yet Homo Sapiens have existed for some 197,000 thousand years, BEFORE Israelites were influenced by Meopotamian creation mythology, where their first man Adamu came from dirt.

The Scriptural account reads different from the Narrative supposition of those who try to dismiss the Creator GOD of all things.(they produced the real myths.)
However, When those people were dispersed into all the world from the tower of Babel, they did carry with them the Knowledge of the Creator GOD which they corrupted to suit their own worship needs.'
The Israelites(,scripturally,) had a running back-sliding relationship with the Creator GOD and the "gods of the nations"---as is seen in the writings of the Prophets.

 

[outhouse]

The Scriptural account reads different from the Narrative supposition of those who try to dismiss the Creator GOD of all things.

What I don't think you understand is that the ALL of credible science who have searched, documented, and studied these findings have no intention of disproving anything related to your god.

They are just researching what is Homo Sapiens.


YOU are the one with the interpretation that this is a literal event, WITH NO PROOF AT ALL.

YOU are also the one making a claim about scientist trying to dismiss your god, when you have no clue how religious these people are that made these findings.

.(they produced the real myths.)

provide sources that FACTS are now myth by your account.

 

[Thief]

Except iron is not found in dust. It you took up a Sample of the dust of the earth and then a sample of the human body you'd find the compositions to be vastly different.

So no we are not dust.

Iron is found AS dust.

And yes we are.

Won't be long after your demise...the evidence will be there.....in the box.

(iron in your blood?....up from the ground?....)

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly The Scriptural account reads different from the Narrative supposition of those who try to dismiss the Creator GOD of all things.

What I don't think you understand is that the ALL of credible science who have searched, documented, and studied these findings have no intention of disproving anything related to your god.

They are just researching what is Homo Sapiens.

Outhouse, "guess-tamations" of 14 billion years is "just researching what is Homo Sapiens??? The Scriptural account for the Creation of all things by the Creator GOD was Six days(days and nights) then GOD set aside the next 24 hours(of that creation week) as the Sabbath to Worship and associate in fellowship with HIM. GOD is an awesome GOD and mankind was fearfully and wonderfully made/created from the elements of the earth.

YOU are the one with the interpretation that this is a literal event, WITH NO PROOF AT ALL.

YOU are also the one making a claim about scientist trying to dismiss your god, when you have no clue how religious these people are that made these findings.
provide sources that FACTS are now myth by your account.

Since neither of us were there when GOD created all things and GOD showed HIS power over that which HE Made in the Scriptures since that Week, I wil believe the written accounts recorded by HIS Prophets.
2000 years ago there is recordings of HIS promised SON who provided many evidences which authenticated and verified HIS being sent by THAT GOD to Redeemd mankind from the penalty of Death.(Second--not first).

Where is the evidence that This world was created/happened/came into being from a total lack of any pre-existing material. There is none.
Yes, there are "scientist" who are GOD Fearing, but you have dismissed them as not having "facts". The ones you believe spout that which you want to hear., but were only, speculated "theories"---with out any verifiable evidence.

 

[outhouse]

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Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.[1]


Refute that.

 

[Ken Brown]

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Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.[1]


Refute that.

Hi outhouse, how about this:

Creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In it they say that "a creation myth is usually regarded as conveying profound truths, metaphorically, symbolically and sometimes even in a historical or literal sense."

What you fail to understand is that the Scriptures are very clear that when Adam and Eve were created in "this age," it was a "renewing" of the face of the earth. The earth is very old, even billions of years old, and it was created "in the beginning," but something happened to cause the earth to become "void, and without form." I believe a rebellion occurred and the earth was destroyed in that "age," and this "renewing," is Elohim's attempt to RESTORE His Kingdom to be On Earth, as it is IN Heaven.

So, IF one properly understands that the earth is "billions" of years old, and that the Genesis account is an account of the earth's renewal, after a prior destruction, then ALL of your scientific evidence will go HAND in HAND with this renewal account. I do have Scriptures to back up everything I just wrote about the "earth's renewal," would be you interested in discovering the Truth? KB

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Iron is found AS dust.

And yes we are.

Won't be long after your demise...the evidence will be there.....in the box.

(iron is your blood?....up from the ground?....)

Iron is a metal...when it comes in contact with oxygen it produces rust not dust. Its also produced in stars and found deep underground. But again it's not dust...I know you want it to be so that it can fit your beliefs but it's not. Even when a body decays what is left is still carbon....

 

[Thief]

Iron is a metal...when it comes in contact with oxygen it produces rust not dust. Its also produced in stars and found deep underground. But again it's not dust...I know you want it to be so that it can fit your beliefs but it's not. Even when a body decays what is left is still carbon....

Not really up for this are you?
Your blood cells use iron to carry oxygen.
No iron....no breath.

Bleed on something.....watch the blood dry and turn to......dust.

That gray colored stuff you wipe off the tv screen....the dust....
that is lkely to be your skin cells...turned to dust.
We shed about two pounds of that dust every year.

Carbon....yep...good stuff.
Unless it is held in crystal form....it's kinda ....dusty.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Not really up for this are you?
Your blood cells use iron to carry oxygen.
No iron....no breath.

Bleed on something.....watch the blood dry and turn to......dust.

That gray colored stuff you wipe off the tv screen....the dust....
that is lkely to be your skin cells...turned to dust.
We shed about two pounds of that dust every year.

Carbon....yep...good stuff.
Unless it is held in crystal form....it's kinda ....dusty.

Lol nope. Rust and dust are not the same thing. And again Iron is a metal...found deep underground it has to be dug up. It's also creates in stars and is a key component of our planets core...but organic life is still carbon base. The dust of the earth as well is literally referring to be soil...come on you say you believe in science so how can you be so ignorant of so much of it? There's nothing wrong in believing in God, but trying to twist the world around you to make it fit, that's just not right smh.

 

[Thief]

Lol nope. Rust and dust are not the same thing. And again Iron is a metal...found deep underground it has to be dug up. It's also creates in stars and is a key component of our planets core...but organic life is still carbon base. The dust of the earth as well is literally referring to be soil...come on you say you believe in science so how can you be so ignorant of so much of it? There's nothing wrong in believing in God, but trying to twist the world around you to make it fit, that's just not right smh.

Still insisting you're not dust.....and you call me ignorant....

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Still insisting you're not dust.....and you call me ignorant....

I do so gleefully, using terms colloquially and then trying to combine them with scientific terms is ignorance. You say dust, and I will continue to point out that the dust of the earth is not composed of the organic material which all life is made of.

Iron produces rust, not dust. The dust on your tv is not the same as the dust of the earth. The particulates are numerous and varied. The framing and literary device of genesis works fine when taken allegorically, not when you try to squeeze into the little box that you've created. Your dogma is shaking its stick again.

 

[outhouse]

Hi outhouse, how about this:

Creation myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In it they say that "a creation myth is usually regarded as conveying profound truths, metaphorically, symbolically and sometimes even in a historical or literal sense."

What you fail to understand is that the Scriptures are very clear that when Adam and Eve were created in "this age," it was a "renewing" of the face of the earth. The earth is very old, even billions of years old, and it was created "in the beginning," but something happened to cause the earth to become "void, and without form." I believe a rebellion occurred and the earth was destroyed in that "age," and this "renewing," is Elohim's attempt to RESTORE His Kingdom to be On Earth, as it is IN Heaven.

So, IF one properly understands that the earth is "billions" of years old, and that the Genesis account is an account of the earth's renewal, after a prior destruction, then ALL of your scientific evidence will go HAND in HAND with this renewal account. I do have Scriptures to back up everything I just wrote about the "earth's renewal," would be you interested in discovering the Truth? KB

I like this better

Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.[1]

 

[Ken Brown]

I like this better

Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.[1]

Hi outhouse, when you quote Wikipedia, you should have a basic understanding of their explanation of what the Creation "myth" means. Or maybe you should bring in one of your "experts" to explain it to you. But then again, maybe you should believe the Scriptures when it says the Elohim RENEWED the face of the earth, instead of foolishly denying the Scriptures. Doesn't your scientific evidence point to a very "old" earth? KB

 

[metis]

"Foolishness" tends to be in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Ken Brown]

"Foolishness" tends to be in the eye of the beholder.

Hi metis, correct, this is why Yeshua said, "O fools, and slow of heart to believe..." as most do foolishly deny or won't believe what the Prophets have spoken. KB

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Hi metis, correct, this is why Yeshua said, "O fools, and slow of heart to believe..." as most do foolishly deny or won't believe what the Prophets have spoken. KB

I'm a prophet, and God told me every Tuesday is "Taco Tuesday." It's true because I said so and I'm a prophet.

 

[metis]

Hi metis, correct, this is why Yeshua said, "O fools, and slow of heart to believe..." as most do foolishly deny or won't believe what the Prophets have spoken. KB

And I guess that this was his opinion and yours, but not all look at it that way, and often for very good reasons. Maybe "foolishness" itself is assuming those who may disagree with us are just being "foolish"?

 

[outhouse]

Hi outhouse, when you quote Wikipedia, you should have a basic understanding of their explanation of what the Creation "myth" means. Or maybe you should bring in one of your "experts" to explain it to you. But then again, maybe you should believe the Scriptures when it says the Elohim RENEWED the face of the earth, instead of foolishly denying the Scriptures. Doesn't your scientific evidence point to a very "old" earth? KB

Im not sure you understand the whole concept of Elohim and how the bible redacted the god El to later mean Elohim also meaning Yahweh as the primary god.

Israelites did not exist before 1200 BC and they were Polytheistic at this time only worshipping Canaanite deities.


If you want to accept the reality of history, and then discuss these events and how they relate or do or do not relate to Genesis, I would be happy to go over that with you.

 

[gnostic]

I'm a prophet, and God told me every Tuesday is "Taco Tuesday." It's true because I said so and I'm a prophet.

I personally preferred burritos. :eat:

Is there a special day for burritos?

 

[sincerly]

Where is the evidence that This world was created/happened/came into being from a total lack of any pre-existing material. There is none.
Yes, there are "scientist" who are GOD Fearing, but you have dismissed them as not having "facts". The ones you believe spout that which you want to hear., but were only, speculated "theories"---with out any verifiable evidence.

I like this better

Genesis creation narrative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity.[1]

Refute that.

Outhouse, those "editors" of the "Wikipedia" are only compiling material which suits their manmade criteria. IT is subject to revision at the whim of another writer whose "research" appears to be "approved" by said criteria.
That "criteria" has been selected by ones who refuse the truths of the Scriptures.

The strange thing is that the Scriptures have already time-wise recorded the kingdoms and battles which the "writers" acknowledge as happened in their "work"/research. Therefore, The Scriptures are not "myths", but Truths.