Genesis 2

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
Apparently, either your reading or comprehension is faulty or needing upgrading. See my 8:05PM post.

Your post is one of intellect that does not understand anything about what was presented to you.

You can accomplish everything you want, ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO USE THE TOOL

Your post is one of ignorance.

Outhouse, My post was one of facts. As I had posted, (and if you had correctly noted) I had used that tool as it served my purpose and other "quote features" as I needed them in accomplishing that which I desire to accomplish. If my "quoting" is an embarrassment to you---which it shouldn't be--- since it is me that is doing the quoting. Then, do not post things which you know I will contest/debate.---OR expect---"my usage and posting" to make the points as suits the topic/present post.

 

[Thief]

I follow the known historical truth.


I don't invent or use imagination to fill in the ignorance I have.

So if someone didn't write it down for you.....you can't think.

Imagination is the problem solving part of the mind.
You can't proceed without it.

Looks like you've trapped yourself in the past.

As for Genesis....it works just fine.....as is.

 

[outhouse]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
Apparently, either your reading or comprehension is faulty or needing upgrading. See my 8:05PM post.



Outhouse, My post was one of facts. As I had posted, (and if you had correctly noted) I had used that tool as it served my purpose and other "quote features" as I needed them in accomplishing that which I desire to accomplish. If my "quoting" is an embarrassment to you---which it shouldn't be--- since it is me that is doing the quoting. Then, do not post things which you know I will contest/debate.---OR expect---"my usage and posting" to make the points as suits the topic/present post.

Yout still screwing it up. It is an easy function.

Please learn how to use the forum if you choose to use it.

If you cannot figure it out, we can help, but good lord! learn how to use it.

 

[outhouse]

So if someone didn't write it down for you.....you can't think.

Your no one to talk down to anyone.

Imagination is the problem solving part of the mind.
You can't proceed without it.

The difference betwene you and me is I dont use INSTEAD of credible history or science

As for Genesis....it works just fine.....as is.

Only how you PERSONALLY interpret it, which many call a perversion of science and scripture.

 

[CG Didymus]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
The True message of Genesis is that Mankind in general has mostly been disobedient from the "beginning".
...GOD did the initial recording by writing with HIS OWN FINGER upon the two stone tablets the Decalogue. Moses then wrote the rest of what was revealed by GOD on Sinai---which accounts for the validity of Creation. Oral testimony and GOD'S Revelation

What did God write? The Decalogue? That must be pretty important. Do you follow it? All of it? You know, where it talks about the Sabbath? You know what the Sabbath is? Right? Because God told Moses what it was and how to keep it. You do that right? No? That and any Law of God as told to Moses that you don't like is null and void? How convenient. So the main part of what God told Moses to tell the Hebrews on how to live, doesn't matter any more? It's been replaced? So the Bible, the old part, doesn't have to be followed? Oh, because it's still the Word of God, it's still good for teaching, reproaching and making fun of the Jews, because they still try and follow all those rules. Oh, and to get Church members to feel guilty for not tithing. Oh, and by the way, does God have a literal finger?

 

[Thief]

Your no one to talk down to anyone.




The difference betwene you and me is I dont use INSTEAD of credible history or science




Only how you PERSONALLY interpret it, which many call a perversion of science and scripture.

You constantly deride other posters....
Ever proof read?

And sure, my perspective is unique.

 

[outhouse]

Readers, OP Is only posting to see what kind of reaction he gets.

Lets work with facts, not your biased opinion.

IAP - IAP Statement on the Teaching of Evolution

We agree that the following evidence-based facts about the origins and evolution of the Earth and of life on this planet have been established by numerous observations and independently derived experimental results from a multitude of scientific disciplines. Even if there are still many open questions about the precise details of evolutionary change, scientific evidence has never contradicted these results:
•In a universe that has evolved towards its present configuration for some 11 to 15 billion years, our Earth formed approximately 4.5 billion years ago.
•Since its formation, the Earth – its geology and its environments – has changed under the effect of numerous physical and chemical forces and continues to do so.
•Life appeared on Earth at least 2.5 billion years ago. The evolution, soon after, of photosynthetic organisms enabled, from at least 2 billion years ago, the slow transformation of the atmosphere to one containing substantial quantities of oxygen. In addition to the release of the oxygen that we breathe, the process of photosynthesis is the ultimate source of fixed energy and food upon which human life on the planet depends.
•Since its first appearance on Earth, life has taken many forms, all of which continue to evolve, in ways which palaeontology and the modern biological and biochemical sciences are describing and independently confirming with increasing precision. Commonalities in the structure of the genetic code of all organisms living today, including humans, clearly indicate their common primordial origin

 

[outhouse]

And sure, my perspective is unique.

Ive seen piles of trash called unique.

Ever proof read?

You obviously get the jist of my replies.


When one does not even have the intellect to use a quote feature, one will not have anything of value or credibility to bring to the table.

said person also brings nothing but biased opinion not sourced by anyone or anything.

If we must go back and forth with this kind of metality, atleast one could use a feature children can figure out.

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
The True message of Genesis is that Mankind in general has mostly been disobedient from the "beginning".
...GOD did the initial recording by writing with HIS OWN FINGER upon the two stone tablets the Decalogue. Moses then wrote the rest of what was revealed by GOD on Sinai---which accounts for the validity of Creation. Oral testimony and GOD'S Revelation

What did God write? The Decalogue? That must be pretty important. Do you follow it? All of it? You know, where it talks about the Sabbath? You know what the Sabbath is? Right? Because God told Moses what it was and how to keep it. You do that right? No? That and any Law of God as told to Moses that you don't like is null and void? How convenient. So the main part of what God told Moses to tell the Hebrews on how to live, doesn't matter any more? It's been replaced? So the Bible, the old part, doesn't have to be followed? Oh, because it's still the Word of God, it's still good for teaching, reproaching and making fun of the Jews, because they still try and follow all those rules. Oh, and to get Church members to feel guilty for not tithing. Oh, and by the way, does God have a literal finger?

CG D, Oh! The Scriptures are for each to measure themselves against---Should one decide that GOD is real---and means that which HE Says.

 

[outhouse]

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[outhouse]

GOD did the initial recording by writing with HIS OWN FINGER upon the two stone tablets the Decalogue

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:biglaugh:


So your god did not have the intellect to come up with his own laws, he had to use Mesopotamian and Egyptian laws already in place and is use, and copy their work????????????????

 

[sojourner]

Now we come into the second instalment in this series. By the way, if you were wondering why I called it Bible Facepalm...it is because I cannot believe I am reading the bible lol.

I posted the first instalment which people suggested I consider Jewish and Christian commentary before responding I think this was a fair suggestion. So I will be doing that from now on.

Genesis 2
Adam and Eve
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&version=NIV

My Thoughts
This chapter kind of repeats chapter 1 in more detail, more so with the creation of Adam and Eve. I read through both the Jewish and Christian commentaries which was interesting. I will provide links for these at the bottom of this post. So here are my thoughts based on all of this...

There isn’t really a lot that can be said about this chapter other than a few questions that were raised in my mind such as;
- “Why would god place a tree in the garden only to forbid them from touching it?”
- “Didn’t god lie about what would happen if they ate from the forbidden tree? Or was it that he didn’t know what would happen? If he didn’t know, doesn’t this go against the understanding of what god is”
- “Are women seen as the lower gender because they were not created from dust/dirt but instead the bone of a man?”
- “They felt no shame? Does that indicate that they should have felt shame or was it a setup for when they eat the fruit?”

It was interesting to note that it was interpreted that the two flesh becoming one was not speaking of the physical act but more a reference to them both coming together in the form of a child.



http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/8165#showrashi=true
http://www.christnotes.org/commentary.php?com=mhc&b=1&c=2

Actually chapter 2 doesn't "repeat chapter 1." Chapter 2 is written by a different author, and is actually earlier than chapter 1. It's message and theology are different than chapter 1. There is no credible way to blend the two.

 

[sincerly]

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Please note: this is the post that will continue along with the others which only has relevance to the total number of posts one has posted.

 

[sincerly]

Actually chapter 2 doesn't "repeat chapter 1." Chapter 2 is written by a different author, and is actually earlier than chapter 1. It's message and theology are different than chapter 1. There is no credible way to blend the two.

Wrong. Gen.2: attests to Gen.1 being prior. Gen.2:4-25, "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,..."

That is Scriptural and a continuing of the creating(Sabbath) and the added details concerning certain days creations. Where is your source? Or is it just your own opinion?

 

[CG Didymus]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
The True message of Genesis is that Mankind in general has mostly been disobedient from the "beginning".

The OP asks about the "forbidden fruit." God put the temptation and tempter in the garden. Did he expect Adam and Eve to do different than what they did?

 

[outhouse]

Please note: this is the post that will continue along with the others which only has relevance to the total number of posts one has posted.

Your ignorance of the quote feature, is appauling.


You have been given simple video instructions and yet you fail

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
GOD did the initial recording by writing with HIS OWN FINGER upon the two stone tablets the Decalogue

:biglaugh:

So your god did not have the intellect to come up with his own laws, he had to use Mesopotamian and Egyptian laws already in place and is use, and copy their work????????????????

OUTHOUSE, You failed to provide a "source" for your non-scriptural remarks.

Here is Moses's(recapitulated) pre-talk to the now grown children of those who died in the wilderness because of disbelief ---before they were to enter into the "promised land".
Deut.4:5-8, "Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it. Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people. For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for? And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?"

In fact, GOD had said NOT to believe their Laws and beliefs/"abominations".(Lev.18:26)

 

[sincerly]

Originally Posted by sincerly View Post
Please note: this is the post that will continue along with the others which only has relevance to the total number of posts one has posted.

Your ignorance of the quote feature, is appauling.


You have been given simple video instructions and yet you fail

Ta Ta Ta!, right on cue.

 

[outhouse]

Originally Posted by sincerly

Your ignorance of the quote feature, is appauling.


You have been given simple video instructions and yet you fail

 

[outhouse]

You failed to provide a "source"

You NEVER give any.

You have no credibility, nor the intellect to use the quote feature correctly.