God existance in Islam

[outhouse]

Leave your opinion aside, .

he has

you have not.

You are perverting science and reality by making less then honest claims.

 

[Britedream]

Are you blind? I just did


""Galen refers to the relation between the brain and the nerves that lead from the sense-organs to the brain ... He also says that vision works like touch, which operates through the nerves from the surface of the body to the brain; the idea being the sensitive air close to the color seen is analogous to the nerve-ends in our skin."[iii]


The book is http://books.google.ca/books?id=3z09...q=&redir_esc=y

I do not think you are stupid, Did I say pain in the skin, or nerve?.

 

[MD]

I do not think you are stupid, Did I say pain in the skin, or nerve?.

You do realize the pain in the skin is from nerves.

 

[outhouse]

koran has no credibility as a science book what so ever, and its claimed history is laughable.

THANK YOU OP for showing the world how unreasonable islam is as a whole


Is this an example of why muslims like to murder each other by the hundreds of thousands?

This exact behavior ? No reason and no rationality and no proper communication skills as a whole. I have noticed this out of many muslims.

 

[outhouse]

You do realize the pain in the skin is from nerves.

Another prime example of how islam stops education and knowledge right in its tracks.


Im getting on to something here, do all muslims fail to communicate properly?


It sure seems like it, they murder each other over this in pathetic and barbaric numbers.


Why is reason thrown out the window??? OH YA FANATICISM

 

[Britedream]

You do realize the pain in the skin is from nerves.

Leave What I realize or what I do not.

Just give a link to an old book, over 14 Centuries, and give the page number where it says, pain is in the skin.
You just gave me a link that did not show me what I asked from you.

 

[outhouse]

Leave What I realize or what I do not.

Just give a link to an old book, over 14 Century, and give the page number where it says, pain is in the skin.
You just gave me a link that did not show me what I asked from you.

Another prime example of how islam stops education and knowledge right in its tracks. Avoid reality much?

 

[Tiapan]

Hey, diddle, diddle,
The cat and the fiddle,
The cow jumped over the moon;
The little dog laughed
To see such sport,
And the dish ran away with the spoon.

The earliest recorded version of this poem, in close to the modern form, was printed in London in "Mother Goose's (Peace Be Upon Her) Melody" around 1765.

Is it not amazing how the author (Peace Be Upon Her) has so prophetically predicted the future, obviously referring to the moon landings of 1969-1972 and more amazingly, accurately defining the shape of the radio communications dishes used for deep space exploration. Further the spoon is obviously referring to the complex LNB antenna array held at the focus of the dish and Laika was the first dog in space. Didn't one of the astronauts also play the violin and own a cat?

How could anyone pre 1750's possibly forsee such accurate knowledge of the current future.

What an amazing miracle and obviously proof that God exists!

All bow down to the almighty Mother Goose (Peace Be Upon Her)

I think all the sacred ancient mother goose (Peace Be Upon Her) texts, should be incorporated into the Koran to boost its integrity and credibility.


.... or could it be in my naivety, that I am possibly reading far too much into a simple nursery rhyme, relying on a few simple words to prove a huge hypothetical leap?


Cheers
and peace be with you too.

 

[Britedream]

No reply that satisfies the request has been provided. inability is realized.

Now since all the dust has been settled, I have to tell you something; I knew all a long that he will not be able to come up with the link to an old book that says pain is in the skin as I will show you in few minutes, but the reason I continue with him is to show A lesson to all people in this forum how these type of people debate. Just go back and see how many posts are there, for simple request; " Just give me a link to an old book that says pain is in the skin", the respond should have been; here is the link, or Sorry, I have no link. it shows how they go left and right, posting a lot of information , but the one you requested. try to upset you with various things.

what I am going to show you will indicate to you, how this people brag about science, and education, yet they refuse it.
To the point:

Chapter 6: Pain Principles
Nachum Dafny, Ph.D., Department of Neurobiology and Anatomy, The UT Medical School at Houston.

For thousands of years, physicians have tried to treat pain without knowing the details of the ways in which pain is signaled from the injured part of the body to the brain, or the ways in which any of their remedies worked. Recent discoveries about how the body detects, transmits and reacts to painful stimuli, have allowed physicians to relieve both acute and chronic pain.

You see the first colored statements, "For thousands of years....", indicates the knowledge of people remains the same, as for no Science discovery of this knowledge. So no one knew in the past that pain is signaled from the skin. it is true they knew that pain came from the place of the injury, but ignorant of how this came about.



now look at the second colored statements; "Recent...", to indicate that knowledge about this, is recent.

let us see what is known recent:

Chapter 6: Pain Principles

Nachum Dafny, Ph.D., Department of Neurobiology and Anatomy, The UT Medical School at Houston.

Nociceptors are free (bare) nerve endings found in the skin

Do you see What is The Ph.D. saying "in the skin", look at the title; "pain Principles"

The above rendered his posts useless as well as the post of his cheer leaders.

Do you see now Why I knew he is not going to come up with the link?, as I have shown you above, the information is not there. This is in the link I have provided in my earlier post. That also show you, they reject education; this info was put on the University site for education, and it is a Science, so the fact they did not acknowledge that, they reject education and Science, yet the claim the opposite.

I have provided you with the prove that the pain is in the skin, is not known at the time of prophet Muhammed (pbuh),or before prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) time, as well as the assertion of Science to this Scientific knowledge to be true.



It is not in a human nature that they know what doesn't exist.

The verse:

4:56
Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the fire. Once their skins are consumed, We replace them with other ones, so they may feel the punishment. God is the powerful, and Wise.

So the only explanation that is plausible, is that the information must be a revelation. and to that; God exist, Muhammed pbuh is a prophet, and the Quran is a divine book.

I know they will come back and try all kind of justifications, but I trust the mind of the reader.

 

[Shad]

You think people didn't know when skin was burned that it hurt? There was pain? This revelation amounts to stating the obvious.

 

[outhouse]

; God exist, Muhammed pbuh is a prophet, and the Quran is a divine book.

.

:biglaugh:


God scientifically does not even exist.

muhammad was a pedophile warrior who plagiarized previous religions

and korn is a perverted book responsible for millions of musilm deaths

 

[MD]

No reply that satisfies the request has been provided. inability is realized.

Now since all the dust has been settled, I have to tell you something; I knew all a long that he will not be able to come up with the link to an old book that says pain is in the skin as I will show you in few minutes, but the reason I continue with him is to show A lesson to all people in this forum how these type of people debate. Just go back and see how many posts are there, for simple request; " Just give me a link to an old book that says pain is in the skin", the respond should have been; here is the link, or Sorry, I have no link. it shows how they go left and right, posting a lot of information , but the one you requested. try to upset you with various things.

what I am going to show you will indicate to you, how this people brag about science, and education, yet they refuse it.
To the point:


You see the first colored statements, "For thousands of years....", indicates the knowledge of people remains the same, as for no Science discovery of this knowledge. So no one knew in the past that pain is signaled from the skin. it is true they knew that pain came from the place of the injury, but ignorant of how this came about.



now look at the second colored statements; "Recent...", to indicate that knowledge about this, is recent.

let us see what is known recent:




Do you see What is The Ph.D. saying "in the skin", look at the title; "pain Principles"

The above rendered his posts useless as well as the post of his cheer leaders.

Do you see now Why I knew he is not going to come up with the link?, as I have shown you above, the information is not there. This is in the link I have provided in my earlier post. That also show you, they reject education; this info was put on the University site for education, and it is a Science, so the fact they did not acknowledge that, they reject education and Science, yet the claim the opposite.

I have provided you with the prove that the pain is in the skin, is not known at the time of prophet Muhammed (pbuh),or before prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) time, as well as the assertion of Science to this Scientific knowledge to be true.



It is not in a human nature that they know what doesn't exist.

The verse:



So the only explanation that is plausible, is that the information must be a revelation. and to that; God exist, Muhammed pbuh is a prophet, and the Quran is a divine book.

I know they will come back and try all kind of justifications, but I trust the mind of the reader.

You are a really slow person. If the Quran states that pain is in the skin, while pain is actually in the nerves, it shows that the Quran is wrong. It shows that it's not divine. It shows that Galen had it more right than your so called prophet, a man who existed hundreds of years before your own so called divine messenger.

I didn't bother replying because I am wasting my time with people like you, the billion or so of you who are so backwards that you will never truly understand science, reason, logic and spirituality.

How can you prove that your book is right, when someone else who existed hundreds of years ago was more correct. That's like some dude 400 years from now getting a revelation that Newtonian physics is be all to end all truth of the universe, even though Einsteinian physics is more correct. Then 2000 years from now, some dude like you points to the 'DIVINE PROOF' of the Newtonian revelation dude and then someone like me says that Einsteinian physics existed before and the dude who's like you says he's denying the truth.

EPIC EPIC FAIL!

 

[Britedream]

You are a really slow person. If the Quran states that pain is in the skin, while pain is actually in the nerves, it shows that the Quran is wrong. It shows that it's not divine. It shows that Galen had it more right than your so called prophet, a man who existed hundreds of years before your own so called divine messenger.

I didn't bother replying because I am wasting my time with people like you, the billion or so of you who are so backwards that you will never truly understand science, reason, logic and spirituality.

How can you prove that your book is right, when someone else who existed hundreds of years ago was more correct. That's like some dude 400 years from now getting a revelation that Newtonian physics is be all to end all truth of the universe, even though Einsteinian physics is more correct. Then 2000 years from now, some dude like you points to the 'DIVINE PROOF' of the Newtonian revelation dude and then someone like me says that Einsteinian physics existed before and the dude who's like you says he's denying the truth.

EPIC EPIC FAIL!

It is cheap way out, and it is poor thinking, the nerves's ends are in the skin, go back and read what I quote from The one who is Authority on the subject.

 

[MD]

It is cheap way out, and it is poor thinking, the nerves's ends are in the skin, go back and read what I quiote from The one who is Authority on the subject.

The nerves still conduct the sensations and the pain is created in the brain. Your way of thinking is inadequate since your Quran is WRONG!

 

[Britedream]

The nerves still conduct the sensations and the pain is created in the brain. Your way of thinking is inadequate since your Quran is WRONG!

Untill you go and change the information at Teaxs University, Quran stands, as well as my points.

 

[outhouse]

the nerves's ends are in the skin,.

No WAY!!!!!

YOU have to be kidding me!!!!!!!


OMG a scientific discovery for modern man !!!!!

 

[outhouse]

Untill you go and change the information at Teaxs University, Quran stands, as well as my points.

If you only knew how bad your embarrassing good muslims :slap:

 

[MD]

Untill you go and change the information at Teaxs University, Quran stands, as well as my points.

You asked for pain in the skin. I told you a much more detailed response for pain, predicted more accurately by a Roman anatomist who lived 400 years before your prophet and your book.

Your points don't stand. Your book is wrong. Accept it or continue to live in the past.

 

[Britedream]

No WAY!!!!!

YOU have to be kidding me!!!!!!!


OMG a scientific discovery for modern man !!!!!

Do You have the capacity to understand this:

Nociceptors are free (bare) nerve endings found in the skin

 

[MD]

Donyou have the capacity to understand this:

Which was predicted by Galen before the Quran!!!!!!!!!!!!