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God rejects homosexuals...this is a fact

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The Voice of Reason

Doctor of Thinkology
One has to be careful when they cite this, there is no Greek equivalent to "homosexual". Some argue this word means male prostitute, but I'm not sure.

Accuracy in translation is the least of the worries of an intolerant bigot. He could just as easily cited John 3:16.

Either way, he's simply justifying his biases.
 

rojse

RF Addict
Is it possible that our troll has decided to develop two new personae's on this trip into our midst?

Is being rejected for stupidity, ignorance, bias, and bigotry such a thrill, that one would want to double the pleasure?

So many questions, so little time.

On the other hand, this might well be the person that we can replace Investocracy with, Voice Of Reason. All he needs to do now is start quoting Fox News.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Do you think that we can change some people's minds by being reasonable and open-minded?
Yes, I know we can. Not everyone of course. But if someone is open to learning the other side of the issue, not just the one they've been force fed all they're lives, then yes, I know minds can be changed because I've seen it happen many times on this forum alone.
 
One has to be careful when they cite this, there is no Greek equivalent to "homosexual". Some argue this word means male prostitute, but I'm not sure.

Nice try...but it won't work.

Something that was part of the Greek society was homosexuality, and it can't be possible that the Greeks didn't have a word to define it. At least use common sense combined with reality about this.

It appears that some homosexuals are trying hard to justify their pervert desires as acceptable by God and they try to deviate the meaning of the words found in the bible by giving their own deceived interpretations.

The bible is clear about it, homosexuality is an abomination to God, and Moses, the apostles and the same Jesus in the book of Revelation have declared homosexuals as deserving death and/or never inheriting the new kingdom.

At least, there are lots of homosexuals who are inn better position than the "religious homosexuals" because they simply say: "There is no God". These secular or atheist homosexuals are not hypocrite as the religious ones because they just get away of religion and live their life without conflicts against God...well, from their point of view, of course.

The so called "Christian homosexuals" lack of reasoning when they pretend that God is in their side, because God isn't. This thread is informing them that no homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God regardless of how much faith or good works they do, and that the only possibility for them to be accepted in the new kingdom is to repent and stop being homosexuals.

Best wishes.
 

CarlinKnew

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The bible is clear about it, homosexuality is an abomination to God, and Moses, the apostles and the same Jesus in the book of Revelation have declared homosexuals as deserving death and/or never inheriting the new kingdom.

The Bible is also very clear: those who work on Sunday deserve the same fate. "God rejects those who work on Sunday.... this is a fact." Do you also preach hatred toward the struggling father who needs to occasionally work overtime on Sundays to support his family? Does he deserve death? Why or why not?
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
The Bible is also very clear: those who work on Sunday deserve the same fate. "God rejects those who work on Sunday.... this is a fact." Do you also preach hatred toward the struggling father who needs to occasionally work overtime on Sundays to support his family? Does he deserve death? Why or why not?

And also.... don't priests work on Sunday?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
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Nice try...but it won't work.

Something that was part of the Greek society was homosexuality, and it can't be possible that the Greeks didn't have a word to define it. At least use common sense combined with reality about this.
Right - so when the original Greek of the New Testament uses words that mean things like "pederast" or "male prostitute" rather than blanket terms that would apply to all homosexuals, then this can't be taken as a condemnation of all homosexuality, can it? After all, as you point out, they had the terms and could've used them if they wanted to.

It appears that some homosexuals are trying hard to justify their pervert desires as acceptable by God and they try to deviate the meaning of the words found in the bible by giving their own deceived interpretations.

The bible is clear about it, homosexuality is an abomination to God, and Moses, the apostles and the same Jesus in the book of Revelation have declared homosexuals as deserving death and/or never inheriting the new kingdom.
The Bible's also clear that you should remove the beam from your own eye before trying to remove a speck from someone else's, but that doesn't stop you from doing what you do, does it?

BTW - exactly where in Revelation does it talk about homosexuality?
 
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angellous_evangellous

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Nice try...but it won't work.

Something that was part of the Greek society was homosexuality, and it can't be possible that the Greeks didn't have a word to define it. At least use common sense combined with reality about this.

It appears that some homosexuals are trying hard to justify their pervert desires as acceptable by God and they try to deviate the meaning of the words found in the bible by giving their own deceived interpretations.

The bible is clear about it, homosexuality is an abomination to God, and Moses, the apostles and the same Jesus in the book of Revelation have declared homosexuals as deserving death and/or never inheriting the new kingdom.

At least, there are lots of homosexuals who are inn better position than the "religious homosexuals" because they simply say: "There is no God". These secular or atheist homosexuals are not hypocrite as the religious ones because they just get away of religion and live their life without conflicts against God...well, from their point of view, of course.

The so called "Christian homosexuals" lack of reasoning when they pretend that God is in their side, because God isn't. This thread is informing them that no homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God regardless of how much faith or good works they do, and that the only possibility for them to be accepted in the new kingdom is to repent and stop being homosexuals.

Best wishes.

Now we need to meditate strongly on the meaning of arrogance.

The Greeks, just like us, described homosexuality and homosexual acts imprecisely. That is, we have the word "homosexuality" and the desciptors of that word, including scientific, psysiological, euphemisms, and slang all have a variety of other meanings... so much so that a translator may have difficulty finding a precise translation.

It's much easier, then, to point to the words of Christ - "thou shalt not judge" or "remove the plank from your eye" than it is to arrogantly say that a person has no place in the kingdom of God.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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Right - so when the original Greek of the New Testament uses words that mean things like "pederast" or "male prostitute" rather than blanket terms that would apply to all homosexuals, then this can't be taken as a condemnation of all homosexuality, can it? After all, as you point out, they had the terms and could've used them if they wanted to.

My understanding is that Paul used the clearest possible terms.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
The so called "Christian homosexuals" lack of reasoning when they pretend that God is in their side, because God isn't. This thread is informing them that no homosexuals will inherit the kingdom of God regardless of how much faith or good works they do, and that the only possibility for them to be accepted in the new kingdom is to repent and stop being homosexuals.
Or Christian homosexuals should reject YOUR interpretation of God and religion.
 
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