The Fog Horn
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You're having a laugh right?
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God/Yahweh/Allah I BELIEVE started as volcanic activity
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You're having a laugh right?
Besides Pele, who are other known Volcano deities, anyway?
I'm serious. Do you have anything that could indicate that that's not where they were?
(I kind of doubt you read through my post that fast.)
The Fog Horn
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River....for your guess to be correct, Egypt would have to be the Wilderness of the Red Sea. Do you stand by your guess?
The Fog Horn
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After crossing the Red Sea, at the Gulf of Aqaba, they arrived in Midian. Even this Christian site shows Midian on the East of the Gulf of Aqaba. If they are right, you must be wrong.
Daily Bible Study - Midian
Daily Bible Study - Midian
No, it didn't. The borders of ancient Egypt never extended more than a few miles beyond the Nile river, and the Gulf of Suez is about a hundred miles from that. That's PLENTY of wilderness space.
From that source:
Midian was a son of Abraham and his concubine Keturah (Genesis 25:1-6). His descendants, the Midianites, settled in the territory east of the Jordan River (see The Jordan Valley) and The Dead Sea (much of which was later occupied by Ammonites, Moabites and Edomites), and southward through the desert wilderness of the Arabah. During the time of the Exodus, their territory apparently also included portions of The Sinai Peninsula.
Seems like it agrees with me, not you.
outhouse
Atheistically
I googled them a few days ago to study up. Theres a few out there.
I didnt want to run with Pele because the cultures are so different. I was trying to keep it all in context but alot jump right into myhology that doesnt make a case for or against any simularities.
Are there any known from that region that you could find?
The Fog Horn
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But what you're saying contradicts not only the Bible but Christian sites.
There doesn't seem much doubt about where Midian is....
bible midian - Google Search
Or where all the 'Wildnerness' is...
Take a look at this map that shows the 'Wilderness of Shur', 'Wilderness of Etham' and the 'Wilderness of Paran' all in Sinai. Only the Wilderness of the Red Sea is missing from that map....I wonder why....possibly because there is only one explanation for getting to the edge of it and crossing the Red Sea and that is that it is the Sinai Peninsular, which makes logical sense doesn't it?
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There doesn't seem much doubt about where Midian is....
bible midian - Google Search
Or where all the 'Wildnerness' is...
Take a look at this map that shows the 'Wilderness of Shur', 'Wilderness of Etham' and the 'Wilderness of Paran' all in Sinai. Only the Wilderness of the Red Sea is missing from that map....I wonder why....possibly because there is only one explanation for getting to the edge of it and crossing the Red Sea and that is that it is the Sinai Peninsular, which makes logical sense doesn't it?
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outhouse
Atheistically
well there is a south american one
HUALLALLO-CARHUINCHO, HUALLALLO-CARUINCHO
a Indonesian Volcano Culture
this one was close
Kabiri (Phœn.) or the Kabirim. Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, some of whom - as Terah, Abram’s father - worshipped them under the name of Teraphim. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.
NOW the above one blows her guess out of the water completely, ancient hebrews had their own volcanic deity and guess what!!!! it wasnt elohom or yahweh
HUALLALLO-CARHUINCHO, HUALLALLO-CARUINCHO
a Indonesian Volcano Culture
this one was close
Kabiri (Phœn.) or the Kabirim. Deities and very mysterious gods with the ancient nations, including the Israelites, some of whom - as Terah, Abram’s father - worshipped them under the name of Teraphim. With the Christians, however, they are now devils, although the modern Archangels are the direct transformation of these same Kabiri.
NOW the above one blows her guess out of the water completely, ancient hebrews had their own volcanic deity and guess what!!!! it wasnt elohom or yahweh
No, more likely it wasn't called the wilderness of the Red Sea. After all, guess what? Yours seems to be the only translation that actually says that:
18 So God led the people around by the desert road toward the Red Sea. The Israelites went up out of Egypt ready for battle. (NIV)
18 but God led the people about, by the way of the wilderness by the Red Sea: and the children of Israel went up armed out of the land of Egypt. (ASV)
18But God led the people around by the way of the wilderness toward the Red Sea. And the people of Israel went up out of the land of Egypt equipped for battle. (ESV)
18 Hence God led the people around by the way of the wilderness to the Red Sea; and the sons of Israel went up in martial array from the land of Egypt. (NASB)
18. So God led the people around [by] way of the desert [to] the Red Sea, and the children of Israel were armed when they went up out of Egypt. (CJB)
Seems like, based on all these translations, what the text is actually saying is that they went towards the Red Sea (or, as it's sometimes read, the Reed Sea), not along any place that's named "Wilderness of the Red Sea."
The Fog Horn
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Do you stand by your claim that the Wilderness of the Red Sea is in Egypt and that Midian is in the Sinai Peninsular?
outhouse
Atheistically
heres a good article on the subject OP should read
The Timeless Kabiri
ancient hebrews had volcanic deities and made no bones about it and didnt hide them in and above all NO imagination is needed.
The Timeless Kabiri
ancient hebrews had volcanic deities and made no bones about it and didnt hide them in and above all NO imagination is needed.
Clearly you're not seeing what I'm saying.
There is no Wilderness of the Red Sea. That appears to be a mistranslation. Ancient Egypt also came nowhere close to the Red Sea; it wouldn't have even been on the horizon.
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The Fog Horn
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I count six 'wilderness OF the Red Sea's......Exodus 13:18 So God led the people around by the desert road toward the Red Sea. The Israelites went up out of Egypt armed for battle.
The Fog Horn
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So all part of Sinai except the part that drops into the Red Sea is named as 'Wilderness .....' but you claim the Wilderness of the Red Sea is NOT the otherwise unamed part?
Out of how many?
Plus, that's hardly all of them, especially since three of them are KJV in some form, which is known to be inaccurate.
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Wilderness simply refers to areas that aren't civilized or mapped (i.e., unnamed). It's not the name of a specific region.
outhouse
Atheistically
Exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that passage was written about 750 years after the migration of people started
The documentary model proposes that the four books (actually five - the models include Genesis) were originally four separate documents, treating the same subject (i.e. the Exodus) written at various times and combined by a series of "redactors", or editors, the last in about 450 BC. The "supplementary model" holds that that there was a single original document which was then expanded by "supplements", again with the end product emerging around 450 BC.
The "fragmentary" model proposes that the four books were combined by a single author from a host of "fragments", meaning small texts as well as oral traditions (sagas and folk-tales), again c.450 BC
PLEASE READ Archaeology
The archaeological evidence of the largely indigenous origins of Israel is "overwhelming," and leaves "no room for an Exodus from Egypt or a 40-year pilgrimage through the Sinai wilderness.
EPIC FAIL ON YOUR PART
trust me I could go on