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Gods personal name

kjw47

Well-Known Member
So tall claims is all you have, nothing specific.

In my opinion.


Finding the hardway will not be fun, because this system is almost done. Gods kingdom is mankinds only remaining hope. Things just getting worse and worse by the greed of men, they cannot fix it they causing it.
Like the stimulus packages that they have stolen future generations $$$, trillions of dollars, they threw a few billion at the poor, and the ultra rich who can already afford to live 5000 lifetimes got it all. They never get enough. They are the biggest problem on this earth for most lives, ruled by satan 100%. No wonder God said in the bible--It would be easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter his kingdom.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
The point is, a person shouldn't ignore the possibility that Jesus was partnered with dark forces. If you take a look at Luke 11:15-19, you'll see Jesus never denies working with Beezelbub. It's similar in the manner which he doesn't deny or acknowledge that he is "King of the Jews".

Also, according to Paul, 2 Corinthians 11:14, Satan can transform into an angel of light. Jesus also transfigures into an angel of light (Matthew 17:1, Mark 9:2-3, Luke 9:28-29).


That is sick thinking. Jesus taught-love,peace and unity. 99% of every religion claiming to be christian are members of the group mentioned at 2Cor 11:12-15. They do not teach what Jesus actually teaches, they teach the schools of mens dogmas.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
That is sick thinking. Jesus taught-love,peace and unity. 99% of every religion claiming to be christian are members of the group mentioned at 2Cor 11:12-15. They do not teach what Jesus actually teaches, they teach the schools of mens dogmas.
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34

families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. (Matthew 11:20)

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. (Matthew 15:4-7)
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
that is what satan wants one to think. reality--Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
No, that is what rational people think. Satan doesn't want anything because Satan doesn't exist either.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
No they do not. They have been fallen since before Jesus came and still to this day. They were cut off of being Gods chosen-Matthew23:38-39-- Jesus told them off at Matthew 23, they sent him to his death, but God is so loving and merciful he left the door open to them in verse 39. They must bless the one God sent to them, their Messiah-Jesus. They have outright refused for over 1968 years.
The covenant between God and the Jews is EVERLASTING.
GEnesis 17:7
I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
No they do not. They have been fallen since before Jesus came and still to this day. They were cut off of being Gods chosen-Matthew23:38-39-- Jesus told them off at Matthew 23, they sent him to his death, but God is so loving and merciful he left the door open to them in verse 39. They must bless the one God sent to them, their Messiah-Jesus. They have outright refused for over 1968 years.
The covenant between God and the Jews is EVERLASTING.
GEnesis 17:7
I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
No trinity exists, facts of history prove it.

No they don't.

Your scholars know its fact.

No they don't.

Those religions are pulling in billions they cannot give it up.

As is yours.

They refuse to put Gods name back where God wants it because of a lack of love for him.

No true Scotsman fallacy.

They are deceivers, but getting very rich off of it.

As are many people who peddle your version of this superstition.
 

Bree

Active Member
Personally I have found running from all religions including Jehovah's Witnesses to be more truthful.

I think if there is salvation then if God is loving logically salvation would be for all since our deeds seem to stem from defects in brain chemistry and or structure, and defective environmental influences, neither of which we have complete control over.

So why would God blame us for that which is out of our control?

In my opinion.

the accounts in the bible would say otherwise.

You need only look at the actions God has taken in the past to know how he feels about certain things. He has acted to remove wicked people on numerous occasions so to sit back and believe that God will save everyone just sounds like wishful thinking.

Everyone can be saved if they choose to come to an accurate knowledge and submit themselves to God. Sadly, most will not.
 

Bree

Active Member
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't even spelling his name right! It should start with an I!
Mind you, I'm basing that entirely on Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

have you ever wondered by jerusalem is spelled with a J in english?
or why Jesus is spelt with a J and not an I?

When translating from hebrew to english the I becomes a J
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
the accounts in the bible would say otherwise.
The tales in the Bible are fictional and rejected by authentic scientific enquiry.

You need only look at the actions God has taken in the past to know how he feels about certain things. He has acted to remove wicked people on numerous occasions
No God has not, you are merely asserting things about God which are untrue.

In my opinion.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Jesus has appointed teachers on earth, they get holy spirit. None of the other teachers that Jesus did not appoint get Holy spirit directing them.
Thee others removed Gods personal name in the OT as well. It was in every spot where-GOD or LORD all capitols is, They had no right, God put it there because God wants it there, Then they condemned the NWT for loving God enough to put it back. That is serious lack of Love for God-The reason it exposes them as false with that back in there. They cant have that. it would mean no more billions collected every year.

There is no condemnation for using Jehovah in the OT. I was speaking about using Jehovah in the NT and at times just deciding on the basis of JW doctrine, where Jehovah should be in the NT.
It is plain that the Watchtower is not being led by the Holy Spirit or it would not have to keep readjusting the teachings when it is found that the old teachings are incorrect.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
Many of the teachings in the NT were just to the little flock. This is his bride.

That is an interesting theory. It justifies denying that you are in the New Covenant and that you are not born again and don't have the Holy Spirit and should not partake of the bread and wine to remember the atoning death of Jesus (because it is about the New Covenant which you are not in) etc etc.
It all revolves around the interpretation of the 144000.
But the Watchtower has been wrong about so many things and keep changing their teachings when the supposed "new light" comes along, so why believe them when they say that most of the New Testament was not written for you?
It does not read that way and the Watchtower and you cannot show it is true from the Bible.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has “come not to send peace, but a sword.” Matthew 10:34

families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)

Jesus condemns entire cities to dreadful deaths and to the eternal torment of hell because they didn’t care for his preaching. (Matthew 11:20)

Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. (Matthew 15:4-7)


Jesus said the members of ones household would be their enemies-spiritually not physically. That means those would not listen to him and obey him.
He didnt mean to actually hate them, more like hate the darkness they live in.
Yes those cities were unrepentent, but he never condemned them to a place of eternal suffering. there is no such place.
The Pharisees hated Jesus so no matter what he did they criticised him, He told them off after awhile-Matt 23--And God cut them off of being his chosen-23:38-39
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
The covenant between God and the Jews is EVERLASTING.
GEnesis 17:7
I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.

Matthew 23:38-39 says different--
17:7 says to time indefinite--not forever.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
The covenant between God and the Jews is EVERLASTING.
GEnesis 17:7
I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.


The covenant is to time indefinite it doesnt say forever. They have been apostocised before Jesus came and still to this day They have outright refused to do Matt 23:39
 
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