Father Heathen
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But you claimed that their christian faith compels them to forgive and concede.
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Hamas, innocent Palestinians, and the UN
- Thread starter icehorse
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You said “we would have armed the Palestinians like we did the Ukrainians .. I would venture to guess that these problems would have been resolved long ago ...”,obviously not because after 6 wars and infitadas Israel still exists so I doubt that a backward terrorist organisation that hide behind civilians could ever do it.
Why are you talking nonsense .. " Israelis want to share" - This conversation is not about want some average Israeli wants .. and they don't all want the same thing .... some are for the 2 state solution .. others are not .. so your claim is false nonsense on that basis.
This is about what the Israeli Gov't wants .. and they don't want the Palestinians to have a State .. don't want to share sovereighty or control over any of the land currently under illegal occupation.
"They don't share - They say we want it all" -- is true of the Occupier .. the Occupied .. in general .. just want the Occupier stop committing war crimes - crimes against humanity and leave.
What does Israel existing have to do with anything ? .. and why are you talking nonsense about some backward terrorist organization wiping Israel out ... -- this is about getting Israel to leave the territories they currently occupy ... and to stop the brutal war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Palestinians ... How do you go from there to wiping Israel off the map ? .. some reading comprehension issues going on there .. we are talking about ending a blood feud here .. not wiping one of the two feuding families out ..
And that pretense is to deflect from what
Israel is perpetrating against Palestinians.
Firing rockets from Gaza: isn't that a crime against humanity?
Or shall I interpret it as a luminous signalling of love?
The international law is equal for all.
Lex aequa omnibus.
Otherwise there would still be absolutist monarchies and the US would still be a colony of London.
De juro, but not de facto.
Not de facto because there are arrogant people and arrogant states that feel entitled and above the law.
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Father Heathen
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Two wrongs don't make a right. Enough whataboutism.
In an international court whataboutism is not allowed.
Because there is one international law.
You can't apply double standards in an international court, as for two different juridical situations.
That is a standard for Israel
and a different standard for Palestine.
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Father Heathen
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Nobody should be deliberately targeting and killing civilians. Anyone who thinks an exception should be made for one side or the other are the ones with a double standard.
I perfectly agree with you.
Could be -- depends on what the rocket is fired at -- could be the right of self defense -- but, I would not interpret it a signal of love. One side firing rockets at the other in a blood feud is not a signal of Love Friend -- -as much as Biden wants to believe that massive war crimes - crimes against humanity is actually a form of Love .. do not believe it friend .... as these are liars to the end.
No you don't .. you are an apologist for the deliberate targeting and killing of civilians in Gaza - trying to claim these are "Human Shields" - "Collatoral Damage" or some other genocide apology trope.
I give an example.
I know Libya very well, because it used to be allied to my country, before the Libyan Civil War.
Terrorists (whose ideological base is radicalism and fundamentalism) destroy. Their purpose is to to destroy prosperous countries.
So...since they destroyed Libya, I am convinced they want to destroy Israel as well.
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I think it would be better if Israel occupied it and the Arabs be given their own land in Syria and Egypt.
Now you're sounding just like Hamas
Orbit
I'm a planet
This is an interesting article that asks "What happens when the Israel/Palestine war is over?"
www.bbc.com
Israel has no plan for Gaza after war ends, experts warn
Former intelligence officers tell BBC it is unclear how Hamas could be kept out after Israeli forces leave.
I’m being sardonic but it’s more generous than Hamas are ;-)