oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
That was bloody excellent! It took me 66 years to learn that.............. from a ..... from ...... an American!
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'Have a Blessed Day' versus 'Hope You Get Lucky Tonight'
- Thread starter Uberpod
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I'll have to say "Bye!" around here from now on. This way, the recipient can choose whomever or whatever shall be with him/her.That was bloody excellent! It took me 66 years to learn that.............. from a ..... from ...... an American!
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Bust yer eye!
More like "be with ye".
But yours works too.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Actually, that would be you.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
A few people do just say 'Bye' around here. Some say 'See yer'.
I'm not spinning.... when I was a kid my old man's mates in the Midlands used to say 'Watch yer cock' as a greeting or farewell.
The East Coast folks in the 60's would greet and farewell with 'Ho!' pronounced 'Hi ya O' spoken fast. The Hi is spoken as in 'hit'.
There must be a mass of greeting and farewell words.
Sapiens
Polymathematician
Damn, I really like entomology too ... ants are the best! Never mind.
Revasser
Terrible Dancer
Well this has been an entertaining thread.
I honestly can't picture somebody actually saying "have a blessed day" to a customer like that. It seems so bizarre. And certainly quite crass.
Maybe I'm just living a sheltered life, but that seems like such an odd thing to say to a stranger, let alone a customer. I suspect if I said that kind of thing to a customer I was serving, I'd receive some very confused looks in return.
I'd probably not think too much of it from a waiter, unless it was somewhere I went regularly and it happened a lot. But certainly if my doctor was disposed to wishing blessings on me, I'd probably look for a new doctor, as I'd find that unprofessional at best and outright worrying at worst.
That said, I'd feel much more warmth toward somebody wishing me a pleasant sexual encounter, though probably not a good salutation to use with polite company either
I honestly can't picture somebody actually saying "have a blessed day" to a customer like that. It seems so bizarre. And certainly quite crass.
Maybe I'm just living a sheltered life, but that seems like such an odd thing to say to a stranger, let alone a customer. I suspect if I said that kind of thing to a customer I was serving, I'd receive some very confused looks in return.
I'd probably not think too much of it from a waiter, unless it was somewhere I went regularly and it happened a lot. But certainly if my doctor was disposed to wishing blessings on me, I'd probably look for a new doctor, as I'd find that unprofessional at best and outright worrying at worst.
That said, I'd feel much more warmth toward somebody wishing me a pleasant sexual encounter, though probably not a good salutation to use with polite company either
If you want to communicate respect for someone else, you treat them with respect.
You don't dictate my feelings. You do influence my opinion of you.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Yeah, that goes both ways.
Exactly how is it disrespectful for me to ask someone not to assume that I'm a theist?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
It's not. But it is profoundly disrespectful to expect them to act like they're not, and that's what's actually happening here.
If your waitress wants to know where you go to church or preaches at you or makes offensive jokes or uses racist slurs thinking you'll approve, then absolutely call that out.
But this? This really, truly is the atheist version of the War on Christmas, and it's every bit as obnoxious and ridiculous as when they do it.
The vast majority of Christians go their entire lives without ever saying "have a blessed day" to anyone. Are they acting like they're not Christians? Someone should tell them.
No, it's the atheist version of saying "but I don't have any kids" when someone wishes me happy Father's Day because they assume any guy in his 30s is a parent.
Uberpod
Active Member
Do you go around wishing everyone happy gay pride month in June? That's just a queer being a queer?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
You're grasping at straws, and it's quite transparent.
The argument is that you have no right to dictate someone else's choice of phrasing. People's faith or lack thereof is their own to express or not as they choose. The fact that you and Uberpod don't want to pretend that people expressing beliefs other than yours is somehow infringing on your own identity is your failing. Don't project it onto me.
Nope. It's being offended that other people do have children and demanding that they stop because you don't want kids. Pretty stupid, yeah?
Only that's still not really accurate, since "have a blessed day" DOESN'T ACTUALLY ASSUME YOU BELIEVE IN GOD.
Here's the bottom line: if you want to be considerate to another person - and wishing them well presumes that you are - you take how the other person feels into account. A message that's not welcome by the recipient isn't considerate.
I'm not going to force you to be considerate. What I will do, though, is point out that if you go around saying "have a blessed day" to people without checking to see if they appreciate it, you're doing it for yourself, not for the other people. It's self-serving.
If you want to do self-serving things that make some people around you uncomfortable, again, I'm not going to stop you, but I'm not going to praise you, either.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Well, no. It never occurred to me to wish anyone at all happy Pride. But around this time of year, I do respond to all variations on "season's greetings," Christmas, Chanukah, and Kwanzaa included with "same to you, and a good Solstice." In specifically religious contexts, as well as important social moments like the birth of a child, I do freely wish "may you walk in bright shadow." Oddly enough, nobody, even the fairly conservative Muslims attending the [mosque literally, I don't recall the real word] next to my old apartment, has ever received my well wishing with any less grace or gratitude than I displayed in accepting theirs.
This is, of course, a very different thing than the prim, fake-smiling "I'll pray for you" from confronted street preachers, the dude who took it upon himself to teach me to pray last week after overhearing that I'm bi, or the hospital nurse who couldn't check my blood pressure without exclaiming "praise Jesus" even when I asked her not to. I fully support responding toactual proselytization or aggressive insensitivity as the situation warrants.
Diversity is a beautiful thing. It isn't furthered by exploiting minority status to pick fights with anyone who views the world differently. If you can't be gracious when someone wishes you well, whether sincerely or by rote, then at least don't be a jerk. Picking fights with nice people doesn't actually help further diversity.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
If you know, sure. If you don't, then the goodwill is quite sufficient.
Oh, bull.
Yeah, that's my point.
If you can't be bothered to find out whether what you say will be well-received, then it's still not considerate to say it.
If it's not for the benefit of the person you're saying it to, then who else is left but you?
So you agree with me?