"Her penis" - not at all Orwellian - argh

[Firenze]

You must not live in California. Go to the vet, they ask for a cat’s gender identity, and yes, non-binary is an option.

Can you provide any evidence for this claim?

 

[icehorse]

Yes, you believe you have.
But much of it is dubious & even irrelevant.
Nor was it used in a cogent argument. Your
arguments have been more a train-of-thought
series of histrionic complaints about trans folk.
Calling us "misogynists"....terms like "throwing
women under the bus"....ad hominems, poetic
metaphor, & a paucity of public policy proposals.
Addressing your posts is like nailing Jello to a wall.

I disagree, and I would say your comments amount to personal attacks, given that you're drawing conclusions based on your biases and speculation.

As for the specifics:

- i have criticized ONLY trans activists, never trans people.
- when you support needlessly zero-sum solutions that benefit one group at the expense of women, you ARE supporting misogyny, whether wittingly or not. There are consequences to these things, and you appear to want to shirk those consequences.

So not only are you making personal attacks, you're making FALSE ones.

I would say that your claim that I've made "unprovoked" attacks is laughable.

How about trying good faith debate? You might find it to be a refreshing challenge.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Can you provide any evidence for this claim?

 

[McBell]

Addressing your posts is like nailing Jello to a wall.

I would agree if the jello was running all over the place.

I would say more like herding cats.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Clearly you do. Human development indicates there is no primary determinant. An embryo with a Y chromosome will develop testosterone. Will that be enough to determine gender identity? Maybe, maybe not. The brain chemistry might override the testosterone in one case, and not another. Or the develop of a vagina even in the presence of testosterone may be the deciding factor. We also have to respect the cultural pressures that influence what an individual decides to accept or reject about themselves. I'm sorry that nature isn't as simple as you'd like it to be.

When you fill out a form, which gender do you identify as? How do you come to your answer?

 

[McBell]

Go to the vet, they ask for a cat’s gender identity, and yes, non-binary is an option.

So all this whining and complaining from you is about vets asking for the gender of your pet?
Um...
WTF does that have to do with the thread?

 

[Treasure Hunter]

So all this whining and complaining from you is about vets asking for the gender of your pet?
Um...
WTF does that have to do with the thread?

Give me a break. I don’t care about cats. I’ve made hundreds of posts on this forum with more meaningful content than anyone else. You pick out 1 low content post..

 

[McBell]

Give me a break. I don’t care about cats. I’ve made hundreds of posts on this forum with more meaningful content than anyone else. You pick out 1 low content post..

You asked what gender I identify as when filling out forms.
I flat out stated I have not seen a form where I am being asked my gender.
I then asked if you have an example of such a form.
You come back with a vets request for a pets gender.

Now, instead of owning up to it, you run off into left field masturbating your ego.

How is anyone supposed to take you seriously?

 

[Treasure Hunter]

The trans issue is important because it’s the issue where the rot of identity politics gets exposed. At least let’s hope so, before the activists start picking up the cause of “minor attracted persons”.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

You asked what gender I identify as when filling out forms.
I flat out stated I have not seen a form where I am being asked my gender.
I then asked if you have an example of such a form.
You come back with a vets request for a pets gender.

Now, instead of owning up to it, you run off into left field masturbating your ego.

How is anyone supposed to take you seriously?

Are you and Firenze the same person?

 

[Revoltingest]

How about trying good faith debate?

My meter is getting quite the workout today.

 

[McBell]

My meter is getting quite the workout today.

Gonna have to replace mine

 

[McBell]

Are you and Firenze the same person?

I am gaining a much better appreciation of @Jayhawker Soule liberal use of the ignore feature.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

I am gaining a much better appreciation of @Jayhawker Soule liberal use of the ignore feature.

You might want to reread the last few pages of the thread and reconsider how we got here.

 

[John53]

This thread could be the poster child for making mountains out of molehills.

 

[McBell]

You might want to reread the last few pages of the thread and reconsider how we got here.

How about you list the past post numbers that would explain this:

You asked what gender I identify as when filling out forms.​

I flat out stated I have not seen a form where I am being asked my gender.​

I then asked if you have an example of such a form.​

You come back with a vets request for a pets gender.​

 

[Revoltingest]

Gonna have to replace mine

So I see.

 

[Treasure Hunter]

How about you list the past post numbers that would explain this:

You asked what gender I identify as when filling out forms.​

I flat out stated I have not seen a form where I am being asked my gender.​

I then asked if you have an example of such a form.​

You come back with a vets request for a pets gender.​

Let’s start from the beginning. Which post # did I do this:
“You asked what gender I identify as when filling out forms.”

 

[McBell]

Let’s start from the beginning. Which post # did I do this:
“You asked what gender I identify as when filling out forms.”

Wait, let me see if I got this straight...

You tell me I should re-read the thread and reconsider how we got to this point and you can not even find the post of you asking about gender on a form?

 

[Treasure Hunter]

Wait, let me see if I got this straight...

You tell me I should re-read the thread and reconsider how we got to this point and you can not even find the post of you asking about gender on a form?

That’s the point. I never asked you. I was in the middle of a discussion with Firenze and asked him. Is Firenze your other account or something?