Homosexual adoption - Abomination or not?

[nnmartin]

When has a liberal person ever told you they want to deny you the right to living an old fashioned, traditional, right wing or republican way of life?

All the time. Think of all the PC issues people have to put up with every day.

Lack of free speech is a good example. Anything deemed in breach of the absurd PC laws can get you fired.

 

[nnmartin]

As for adoption, wouldn't adoption be preferable to having one's own children and adding to the ecological burden we impose on the planet?

are you suggesting that it is better to adopt than actually have your own children - where on Earth is the logic in that?

 

[Drolefille]

All the time. Think of all the PC issues people have to put up with every day.

Lack of free speech is a good example. Anything deemed in breach of the absurd PC laws can get you fired.

What i hear:

"WAAAAAA I CANNOT SAY THE N WORD. THE RIGHTS THAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IN THE DOCUMENT I HAVE OBVIOUSLY NEVER READ ARE BEING OFFENDED. WAAAAAAAA"

 

[nnmartin]

I am a heterosexual woman in a stable relationship capable of procreation who wants to adopt. Are you saying I shouldn't be allowed to do this? Why not?

Why should you need to adopt if you are capable of having your own child?

 

[Father Heathen]

are you suggesting that it is better to adopt than actually have your own children - where on Earth is the logic in that?

The logic, obviously, is that you're taking care of a preexisting child in need of a loving home rather than contributing to the overpopulation of the planet. There should be less breeding and more adopting.

 

[nnmartin]

Me Myself has a point. In many countries, and even some states in the US (including my own) same sex marriage is legal. So what does marriage have to do with adoption by homosexual couples if the couples in question are, in fact, married?

Gay couples should not be allowed to marry.

 

[nnmartin]

How is this any different than adoption?
I mean, besides the adopted being blood related?

Very different - 50% of the child comes from the couple so it would have at least one biological parent. This is acceptable as already stated.

 

[Storm]

 

[McBell]

Not just on things I have made up - there are many people with similar views.
A quick search on google has shown that approximately 40% of people in Western countries oppose gay adoption.

That is a large amount - it just happens that most people on this thread are in the 60% camp.

Appeal to numbers fallacy.

 

[Father Heathen]

Gay couples should not be allowed to marry.

Because....?

 

[Father Heathen]

Very different - 50% of the child comes from the couple so it would have at least one biological parent. This is acceptable as already stated.

Why should that be relevant?

 

[nnmartin]

are you suggesting that it is better to adopt than actually have your own children - where on Earth is the logic in that?

The logic, obviously, is that you're taking care of a preexisting child in need of a loving home rather than contributing to the overpopulation of the planet. There should be less breeding and more adopting.

That is a valid and interesting point - the first one in a while from your camp.

However, it is too idealistic - people have an instinct to breed not adopt.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Because....?

Remember: he's giving opinions, not issues up for debate.

 

[McBell]

However, it is too idealistic...

 

[nnmartin]

Gay couples should not be allowed to marry.

Because....?

That is another interesting topic but I do not want this thread hijacked and morphed into a 'should Gay marriage be allowed?' type thread.

However, if you want to discuss this I am more than happy to do so on a separate thread if you wish to start one.

But in a nutshell to answer your question: Because Gay marriage is an absurd idea based on faulty neo-liberal tosh.

 

[Me Myself]

are you suggesting that it is better to adopt than actually have your own children - where on Earth is the logic in that?

In the expanding 7 billions of us humans that already exist.

You ask me, a critical spreadingh of homosexuality is one of homosexuality is one of the few options for controling our population.

Unless you prefer war and plagues of course.

Having one biological mum or dad is better than having two non-biological gay ones, yes.

If one is the real parent then that is fine.

So every orphan in the world should never be adopted unless one of the ones that adopt them is their parent? Do you realize how unpractical and cruel is that for EVEYRONE?

 

[nnmartin]

Very different - 50% of the child comes from the couple so it would have at least one biological parent. This is acceptable as already stated.

Why should that be relevant?

Of course it is relevant - having one parent far outweighs a man-made contrived system.

Think of the spiritual, psychological, genetic and ancestral relationship garnered from this natural phenomena.

That is of infinite significance.

 

[Me Myself]

That is another interesting topic but I do not want this thread hijacked and morphed into a 'should Gay marriage be allowed?' type thread.

However, if you want to discuss this I am more than happy to do so on a separate thread if you wish to start one.

But in a nutshell to answer your question: Because Gay marriage is an absurd idea based on faulty neo-liberal tosh.

Being that this discussion is not being made, then we keep on with the actual reailty of gay marriages existing. And if a married couple may adopt, then a gay married couple may adopt, being that they do exist, and you are unwilling to debate they shouldn´t.

I am perfectly cool with that.

 

[nnmartin]

So every orphan in the world should never be adopted unless one of the ones that adopt them is their parent? Do you realize how unpractical and cruel is that for EVEYRONE?

I have never said that and have not strayed into the area of single, heterosexual adoption - that is a separate debate.

Being that this discussion is not being made, then we keep on with the actual reailty of gay marriages existing. And if a married couple may adopt, then a gay married couple may adopt, being that they do exist, and you are unwilling to debate they shouldn´t.

Gay marriage should be banned.

It is nonsense and only exists to exploit the system financially.

 

[McBell]

That is another interesting topic but I do not want this thread hijacked and morphed into a 'should Gay marriage be allowed?' type thread.

Then why did YOU bring it up in the first place?