Homosexuality

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Ok. Present this "scientific research" showing that a high sex drive makes people become homosexuals.

I think you're giving @BilliardsBall far too much credit.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your anecdote does not change what I'm referring to--scientists agree--so does logic--libidinous people are more prone to adultery and homosexuality.

Science doesn't agree. Nor is this a logical conclusion.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Ok. Present this "scientific research" showing that a high sex drive makes people become homosexuals.
BTW, you do realise that "adultery" and "homosexuality" are not comparable things, so your "logic" fails as well.

The Bible describes the process of over spill of lust--someone who is married with a higher sex drive, are they less likely or more likely to pursue same sex sexual activity in confinement/prison?

 

[BilliardsBall]

I think you're giving @BilliardsBall far too much credit.

EVERY article about a "gay gene" is referring to high libido genetics.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

EVERY article about a "gay gene" is referring to high libido genetics.

The sad part is that I think you sincerely believe this bigoted crap.

 

[KWED]

The Bible describes

The Bible does not constitute "scientific research".

the process of over spill of lust--someone who is married with a higher sex drive,

No idea what you mean there.

are they less likely or more likely to pursue same sex sexual activity in confinement/prison?

How did you get from "high sex drive" to "prison"?
You are literally all over the place.

So, I think we can conclude that you have no evidence to support your claim that a high sex drive makes people become homosexual. Quelle surprise!

 

[KWED]

EVERY article about a "gay gene" is referring to high libido genetics.

Could you link to such an article please? Thanks.
(Note: "The Bible says..." does not constitute an acceptable response)

 

[BilliardsBall]

Science doesn't agree. Nor is this a logical conclusion.

That is untrue, every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

 

[BilliardsBall]

The sad part is that I think you sincerely believe this bigoted crap.

I know by your response that only one of us has read the literature.

 

[BilliardsBall]

The Bible does not constitute "scientific research".

No idea what you mean there.

How did you get from "high sex drive" to "prison"?
You are literally all over the place.

So, I think we can conclude that you have no evidence to support your claim that a high sex drive makes people become homosexual. Quelle surprise!

Every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

The Bible describes some, not all, homosexual activity as heterosexual lust that is out of control.

Straight people in prison--who is more likely to resort to homosexual activity, a highly libidinous person or a person with a weak libido?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I know by your response that only one of us has read the literature.

Whatever lets you sleep at night.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Your anecdote does not change what I'm referring to--scientists agree--so does logic--libidinous people are more prone to adultery and homosexuality.

I don't follow the logic that libidinous people are more prone to homosexuality. Adultery is an activity and a choice, sexual orientation isn't.

 

[Sand Dancer]

The Bible describes the process of over spill of lust--someone who is married with a higher sex drive, are they less likely or more likely to pursue same sex sexual activity in confinement/prison?

Jails are segregated by gender, so of course the only people to have sex with are the same gender. It's not what their preference is, but as mom used to say, "any port in a storm."

 

[KWED]

Every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

And yet you seem reluctant to provide any references. Hmm...

The Bible describes some, not all, homosexual activity as heterosexual lust that is out of control.

As I have already told you "The Bible Says..." is neither a scientific study nor any kind of rational or evidence-based argument.

Straight people in prison--who is more likely to resort to homosexual activity, a highly libidinous person or a person with a weak libido?

I'm not sure where you get the idea that everyone in prison is having gay sex. Could you cite some studies to support your claim?
Generally, heterosexuals who partake in homosexual sex while in prison (often through coercion) are not actually gay. They consider themselves heterosexual and revert to exclusively heterosexual sex on release. That is not "a high sex drive turning men homosexual".

 

[KWED]

every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

You keep repeating this, but not only are you unable to provide any references, if you Google the terms you use, you get nothing that supports your claim.
Admit it, you're just making stuff up.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I don't follow the logic that libidinous people are more prone to homosexuality. Adultery is an activity and a choice, sexual orientation isn't.

Seems to me that @BilliardsBall is accidentally admitting that he isn't too interested in sex... while assuming that the way he feels is normal.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

This is not even remotely true. Currently what's being looked at are epigenetic switches that are expressed in development by environmental triggers such as conditions in the womb. The epigenetic control the same sort of gonad-trait expressions on the spectrum of which extreme points are intersex conditions. Neither of which extreme have more or less libido than their non-intersex counterparts. Homosexuality as a consequence of epigenetically canalized sexual development - PubMed

This means that, if causal, homosexuality is just another natural part of the rich diversity of epigenetic expression of androgens.

But really it doesn't matter because Christian evangelicals don't actually care about biology, or how nonsensical it is to separate nature and nurture especially where epigenetics is concerned. Considering things thought of as 'fully natural' like race and sex didn't historically stop the Bible being used for racism or misogyny.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The Bible describes the process of over spill of lust--someone who is married with a higher sex drive, are they less likely or more likely to pursue same sex sexual activity in confinement/prison?

I won't bog you down in unfamiliar terminology like gay demisexual or homoromantic asexual but it may behoove you to know that there are plenty of gay and lesbian people who don't have an interest in sex or very limited interests in sex. There doesn't seem to be any reason at all to think homosexuals categorically have higher libido.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That is untrue, every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

There is no "gay gene."
Nor is there a "libidinous gene."

 

[SkepticThinker]

Every paper/article on "a gay gene" is a libidinous gene.

The Bible describes some, not all, homosexual activity as heterosexual lust that is out of control.

Straight people in prison--who is more likely to resort to homosexual activity, a highly libidinous person or a person with a weak libido?

Who cares what the Bible says?
Where are these scientific articles you keep alluding to?