Homosexuality

[Wildswanderer]

I see the idea that the morality of sexual acts is based on consent and harm is completely foreign to you.

That's just your puritan morality showing.
The only rule in a godless universe is what can you get away with?

 

[Sand Dancer]

There's no evidence that we have no control over our sexuality. And if the other urges that you find taboo don't come from our brains where they come from?

Anomalies in our psyche caused by negative events in life. Probably the same things fundamentalist attribute homosexuality to. Have you ever studied the brain? I wish they taught that in high school. I learned it in college.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Homosexuality does not cause Paedophilia which is sexual desire for Children which can be both men and women your confused.

I never said it did.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Anomalies in our psyche. Have you ever studied the brain? I wish they taught that in high school. I learned it in college.

Lol, so it's an anomality if I have an urge you find repugnant, but not if I find gay men repugnant?

 

[KWED]

Thats a whole different matter. Lets say you find flaws in all scripture, as a given. A fact. Still, that cannot deem the absence of a God. That is a whole different concept and subject.

If a "god" claims its revealed scripture is perfect and free from error, then if errors are found then that particular god cannot exist. For example, any error in the Quran means that the Quran is not the work of god, therefore the god described therein does not exist.

 

[BigBill88]

I never said it did.

Only pedophiles rape children you claimed "they" i assume you meant homosexuals rape children which you did mean don't lie.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Only pedophiles rape children you claimed "they" i assume you meant homosexuals rape children which you did mean don't lie.

I never made any distinction between hetros and Homos raping. Now you're just making stuff up.

 

[KWED]

The only rule in a godless universe is what can you get away with?

And yet the evidence shows otherwise. Although I have noticed that you don't put much stock in evidence. Or rational argument.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Lol, so it's an anomality if I have an urge you find repugnant, but not if I find gay men repugnant?

What the brain does is not up to opinion.

 

[KWED]

I find gay men repugnant

What happened to "hate the sin, love the sinner"? The mask has well and truly slipped.

 

[Wildswanderer]

What the brain does is not up to opinion.

Of course it is.
I'm sure I can find scientists who don't see pedophilia as an abnormality... There's already whispers on the left about making it normal and acceptable.

 

[Wildswanderer]

What happened to "hate the sin, love the sinner"? The mask has well and truly slipped.

Ok, I should have said I find their acts repugnant.
Better?

 

[Wildswanderer]

And yet the evidence shows otherwise.

Not really. Religion makes people happier and more productive citizens generally.
And religious people are more giving.
Rules aren't all bad.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Of course it is.
I'm sure I can find scientists who don't see pedophilia as an abnormality... There's already whispers on the left about making it normal and acceptable.

If you say so. Good day.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Not really. Religion makes people happier and more productive citizens generally.
And religious people are more giving.
Rules aren't all bad.

Yes, community does make people happier, no matter where it comes from. They tend to be giving to church related causes, not causes in general. If they cared so much, they would be pro-life once people are born, pro-justice and anti-war, but they don't tend to be. Many religious people are great. Sadly, the religious right is known for being bigoted, judgmental and out of touch with reality.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

That's just your puritan morality showing.

The need for consent from the people you have sex with is "puritan morality"? Give your head a shake.

 

[KWED]

Ok, I should have said I find their acts repugnant.

No, you should have said that what they do is none of your business.
What you actually said was what you were thinking.

 

[KWED]

Not really. Religion makes people happier and more productive citizens generally.

Do you need a hand with those goalposts? They look heavy. That has nothing to do with your original claim, which was...
"The only rule in a godless universe is what can you get away with"
Godless people are often more law abiding that religionists, and the least religious countries tend to rank highest in terms of health, welfare, security, happiness, etc

And religious people are more giving.

"Good deeds" done to avoid punishment or gain reward are essentially selfish acts. The atheist gives purely for the benefit of the recipient.

Rules aren't all bad.

Who said that atheists don't have or obey rules?

 

[BilliardsBall]

Nonsense. People only have homosexual sex because they are sexually attracted to the same sex, not because they have a high sex drive.
I am "libidinous" but have never had homosexual sex. I wish I was bisexual, because it would open up more opportunities, but I am simply not sexually attracted to men in the slightest, despite wanting to be. Which kinda blows your strange hypothesis out of the water.

Your anecdote does not change what I'm referring to--scientists agree--so does logic--libidinous people are more prone to adultery and homosexuality.

 

[KWED]

Your anecdote does not change what I'm referring to--scientists agree--so does logic--libidinous people are more prone to adultery and homosexuality.

Ok. Present this "scientific research" showing that a high sex drive makes people become homosexuals.
BTW, you do realise that "adultery" and "homosexuality" are not comparable things, so your "logic" fails as well.