How are these Great Beings explained?

[Vinayaka]

Its was just my bad taste humour.

I'm not aware of any vigilante feminist or gay rights groups going around attacking men.

In this day and age, I don't find that style of humour funny at all. Would your wife find it funny? Politicians, newsmen, and sports announcers are losing their jobs on a daily basis here for that kind of thing.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Lol hmm. Lets start walking now. Eventually we will align. How often are solar eclipses? Thats if i stay on the path. I never do.

If you go East and I go West, eventually we meet again on the other side of the world!

 

[CG Didymus]

Little wonder Hindus have trouble accepting anything like this. First he criticizes our practices without acknowledging or asking about why we do such things. So he's speaking from ignorance. Austerities are for training the willpower, besides other things. Is he suggesting we should all be weak?

Then he says God has forgotten us. What kind of God is that? Our God is a God of unconditional love.

Then he talks about books (Revealer of Verses) when Hinduism isnt a book religion at all, but an experiential one.

And finally, he makes the broad claim that what we do has to be approved by him. What outrageous conceit and criticism! And this insulting tone is supposed to unify?

I'm glad you presented this passage. It's further demonstration of how incredibly different we are.

Baha'is say that Hinduism is a true religion. Krishna and unknown others are manifestations of God. But, what do they believe about Hinduism? Not reincarnation. Not a sect that doesn't accept Krishna. Not a sect that believes in multiple Gods. So what do they really believe about Hinduism?

 

[Dawnofhope]

Indeed. So the description of a religion based entirely on the biased adherents of that religion is also a real problem, or not?

I think its easy for me with Buddhism and Hinduism because I've met so many, and they are well established religions.

The Baha'i Faith is well established too but there are not so many of us. It means you are less likely to have first hand experience of a Baha'i. It must be hard to learn about a faith without any face to face contact with their adherents.

 

[Dawnofhope]

Ha ha, nearly as good (or bad) as Aussie Humor

Aussies and New Zealander can be equally as crass.

 

[Dawnofhope]

In this day and age, I don't find that style of humour funny at all. Would your wife find it funny? Politicians, newsmen, and sports announcers are losing their jobs on a daily basis here for that kind of thing.

We live in a very politically correct world, don't we?

 

[CG Didymus]

The important aspect of the dating from the Hejira is that it represents the beginning of the Islamic Calander. The beginning of the Christian calander is from the birth of Christ. But if we consider that the birth of Christ was earlier then 666 fits perfectly.

The date of birth of Jesus is not stated in the gospels or in any secular text, but most scholars assume a date of birth between 6 BC and 4 BC

Date of birth of Jesus - Wikipedia

The most significant event in regards to the birth of the Umayyad Caliphate was the murder of Muhammad's chosen successor Ali in 661.

Assassination of Ali - Wikipedia

But the Hejira is not the date that the beast started. 666 is the mark or number of the beast, not a date.

 

[Dawnofhope]

Lol hmm. Lets start walking now. Eventually we will align. How often are solar eclipses? Thats if i stay on the path. I never do.

I hadn't factored in the potential for one of us going off the rails! We may never meet.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Aussies and New Zealander can be equally as crass.

Figured as much is it british humor?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I hadn't factored in the potential for one of us going off the rails! We may never meet.

LOL My point exactly. I dont follow a GPS. Self realization. Many have people that teach what to do during travel, what to bring, not where to go though.

 

[Dawnofhope]

But the Hejira is not the date that the beast started. 666 is the mark or number of the beast, not a date.

661 plus 5 = 666

The start of the Umayyad Caliphate that resulted from the death of Islam's rightful successor Ali occurred 666 years after the birth of Christ.

I wonder if you are confusing the start of the Islamic Calendar (622 AD) with the beginning of the Umayyad caliphate (661 AD).

 

[Dawnofhope]

Figured as much is it british humor?

The British are far too uptight for anything like that. The Kiwis and especially Aussies are known as the people of 'down-under' for good reason.

Down Under - Wikipedia

 

[Dawnofhope]

LOL My point exactly. I dont follow a GPS. Self realization. Many have people that teach what to do during travel, what to bring, not where to go though.

Well fortunately because God is everywhere, its a lot easier to find Him.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Well fortunately because God is everywhere, its a lot easier to find Him.

I guess a tree that falls must make a sound outside of our presence.

Shrugs. Good assumption it would 99% correct. If it works for us it must be a fact? Not logical, but I see how how you came to that conclusion.

If you get the connecton. "Carlita's Logic"

 

[CG Didymus]

Yes we believe the physical resurrection of Christ to be a myth.

I don’t know about Odin. There are a lot of stories attached to different cultures and I only have knowledge of the Prophets mentioned in the major Faiths. I have no knowledge Odin except what I found on wiki and Brittanica.

Outside that I have not any indication from any of these Prophets any reference to Odin.

Refer to wik and Brittanica about Odin.

Odin | Norse deity

Odin (comics) - Wikipedia

I don't think it's that unusual to have different ancient people to have a mythology about where they came from and about the gods they believe are in control and that created everything. But some myths are believed true while others not.

 

[Vinayaka]

Baha'is say that Hinduism is a true religion. Krishna and unknown others are manifestations of God. But, what do they believe about Hinduism? Not reincarnation. Not a sect that doesn't accept Krishna. Not a sect that believes in multiple Gods. So what do they really believe about Hinduism?

I have no idea, lol. Whatever, I can expect mostly simplistic overgeneralisation.
Not reincarnation.
Not use of idols. (Temple worship)
Not in enlightened Gurus outside of the declared ones.
Not vegetarianism.
Not the vast scriptures outside the Vedas, and maybe the BG.
Not penance.
Not acceptance of homosexuals, or in Hinduism, the third gender.
Not daily sadhana.
Not moksha.
Not divinity within man.
Not the essential union of man and God.
Not a knowable God.

 

[Vinayaka]

I think its easy for me with Buddhism and Hinduism because I've met so many, and they are well established religions.

The Baha'i Faith is well established too but there are not so many of us. It means you are less likely to have first hand experience of a Baha'i. It must be hard to learn about a faith without any face to face contact with their adherents.

Yes, that's probably true. I doubt if I'll ever meet a real Baha'i either. Even if you do meet someone, it takes a lot of interaction to get to know a person at all well.

 

[Vinayaka]

We live in a very politically correct world, don't we?

Indeed we do. But I like it. I used to be far more accepting of vulgar and racist jokes in my youth. But when you see genuine hurt from it, it changes you. I remember the day I confronted my principal on a 'bad taste' joke. Later, he came to appreciate that.

 

[Dawnofhope]

Yes, that's probably true. I doubt if I'll ever meet a real Baha'i either. Even if you do, it takes a lot of interaction to get to know a person at all well.

When I investigated the Baha'i Faith, I had many conversations face to face with Baha'is over a period of eight months. Beyond that i read books and reflected.There was no internet.

 

[CG Didymus]

Your question was very broad. The trinity is a man made doctrine that arose out of the 4th century, particularly from the two councils of Nicea, and enshrine in the Nicene creed.

Nicene Creed - Wikipedia

A baha'i perspective:

Bahá'í Reference Library - Some Answered Questions, Pages 113-115

The Baha'i recognises Zoroaster as a manifestation of God but I have little knowledge of Zoroastrianism, sorry.

So all Trinitarian Christians are following a false man made doctrine. Which is pretty much all the major denominations of Christianity.

So what does the Baha'i Faith teach about Zoroastrianism? Dualistic or not?