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How did Satan get to the garden of Eden?

waitasec

Veteran Member
At the soon coming 'time of separation' mentioned at Matthew [25vs31,32,40]
the basis for judgment is based on how people treat Jesus 'brothers' [verse 40]
Jesus 'spiritual brothers' that are alive on earth at that separating time.
The humble sheep-like people are judged with favor.

right, it's a subjective understanding....
 

McBell

Unbound
At the soon coming 'time of separation' mentioned at Matthew [25vs31,32,40]
the basis for judgment is based on how people treat Jesus 'brothers' [verse 40]
Jesus 'spiritual brothers' that are alive on earth at that separating time.
The humble sheep-like people are judged with favor.
You forgot the warning from Mathew that the standards by which you judge others will be the standard by which you will be judged.

I notice that there are loads of Christians who should really be concerned with that particular verse.
 

Koala

New Member
Angels are simply created beings who serve God. Satan was an angel serving God his Heavenly name of Lucifer means Light) before he rebelled against God and began a war to take the throne of Heaven for himself. One third of heaven's angels took Satan's side and they joined him in Hell.

Angels were given the choice as to whom they followed, just as we are.

Koala
 

9Westy9

Sceptic, Libertarian, Egalitarian
Premium Member
Fine!
Those that judge by other than what Almighty God has revealed are not "treading the same path" as those that do..

Whether you consider the morality in Scripture as righteous or not, doesn't change that fact!

How arrogant. You can believe that scripture is divinely inspired but the rest of us non-believers do not.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
You forgot the warning from Mathew that the standards by which you judge others will be the standard by which you will be judged.

I notice that there are loads of Christians who should really be concerned with that particular verse.

Hi Mesthemia, those verses are applied to the population of the world. The "all Nations". It is seen in John 3:16 as well. It is the "whosoever believeth" that has feed the ones who have "hungered and thirsted for righteousness" and "visited those who are in the prision house of Sin and those who are "sick" unto death with the "guilt of Sin". . these have used their "talents" to do so. They have been a "witness unto all the world".
It is those who have thwarted GOD and HIS Message of Salvation at every turn which are denounced.----"Ye did it NOT". "By their fruit ye shall know them."

No place is there an admonition to Love or follow any who are disobedient to the Will and rules set down by GOD. That doesn't mean that any person cannot change from being contrary to the ways of GOD to being "followers". GOD is "long-suffering" " awaiting one to come to Repentence". For one to "Perish" isn't HIS Choice nor is it HIS desired aim in HIS MERCY, LOVE, AND GRACE.

Disobedience and arrogance are the choices one makes and is the "fruit" which is rejected as being "fit for the Heavenly kingdom". Therefore, the "separation"---which was started by that "serpent/Satan" in the Garden of Eden. Believe GOD or Believe the "father of lies".
 
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McBell

Unbound
Hi Mesthemia, those verses are applied to the population of the world. The "all Nations". It is seen in John 3:16 as well. It is the "whosoever believeth" that has feed the ones who have "hungered and thirsted for righteousness" and "visited those who are in the prision house of Sin and those who are "sick" unto death with the "guilt of Sin". . these have used their "talents" to do so. They have been a "witness unto all the world".
It is those who have thwarted GOD and HIS Message of Salvation at every turn which are denounced.----"Ye did it NOT". "By their fruit ye shall know them."

No place is there an admonition to Love or follow any who are disobedient to the Will and rules set down by GOD. That doesn't mean that any person cannot change from being contrary to the ways of GOD to being "followers". GOD is "long-suffering" " awaiting one to come to Repentence". For one to "Perish" isn't HIS Choice nor is it HIS desired aim in HIS MERCY, LOVE, AND GRACE.

Disobedience and arrogance are the choices one makes and is the "fruit" which is rejected as being "fit for the Heavenly kingdom". Therefore, the "separation"---which was started by that "serpent/Satan" in the Garden of Eden. Believe GOD or Believe the "father of lies".
*yawn*
So sorry.
Sermons make me sleepy.

Sad that you say all that merely to set up and then present a false dichotomy.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
*yawn*
So sorry.
Sermons make me sleepy.

Sad that you say all that merely to set up and then present a false dichotomy.

Sleep on, One misses a lot by choosing "sleep" rather than gathering information concerning a better LIFE. (which isn't false nor split)
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Ditto is appropiate at this point. But, I have continued to produce the information which others choose to sleep through-- with the "do not disturb" posted.

your tripe is meaningless and the more you choose to prove yourself the more self defeating you become.

congratulations.
 

McBell

Unbound
Sleep on, One misses a lot by choosing "sleep" rather than gathering information concerning a better LIFE. (which isn't false nor split)
Perhaps when you are done with the sermons you can actually address the topic at hand?

:biglaugh:
"better life"
:biglaugh:

When are you going to start presenting information on a "better life"?

Talk about a double fail.:rolleyes:
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
ha ha...
still, you are the "christian" who relies on arrogance.

where is the meek and humble servant your master asked you to be?

Arrogance?? There isn't anything arrogant about pointing out the Truth. And being meek an humble doesn't mean one acquiesces to falseness.
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
Perhaps when you are done with the sermons you can actually address the topic at hand?

:biglaugh:
"better life"
:biglaugh:

When are you going to start presenting information on a "better life"?

Talk about a double fail.:rolleyes:

I have addressed the topic and will continue to do so---despite the disruptions.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Arrogance?? There isn't anything arrogant about pointing out the Truth.


yes there is...:areyoucra
because it's...your truth.


"get back
get back
get back to where you once belonged
get back jo jo
go home..."


And being meek an humble doesn't mean one acquiesces to falseness.
:facepalm:
thanks for making my point ever so clearer...
 
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sincerly

Well-Known Member
sincerly said:
Arrogance?? There isn't anything arrogant about pointing out the Truth. And being meek an humble doesn't mean one acquiesces to falseness.

yes there is...
because it's...your truth.

thanks for making my point ever so clearer...

I see!! Because what I wrote wasn't in agreement with "your" brand of truth it is "arrogance".
Also, it is not being "meek and humble" because one refuses to accept comments which are untrue/cloaked in "false light". Therein, you did make your comment clear.

Like the example given at Eden---Falseness is to be avoided for a right relationship to the Creator GOD.
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
I see!! Because what I wrote wasn't in agreement with "your" brand of truth it is "arrogance".

you said
Sleep on, One misses a lot by choosing "sleep" rather than gathering information concerning a better LIFE. (which isn't false nor split)
implying you have a better life...the arrogance of such a statement makes me want to barf.
WTF!!! who the hell are you?
i see no humility here, i suggest you catch up on luke 6...
 

sincerly

Well-Known Member
you said

implying you have a better life...the arrogance of such a statement makes me want to barf.
WTF!!! who the hell are you?
i see no humility here, i suggest you catch up on luke 6...

I implied nothing----that is your M.O.
Your above comments are "fruit" which negates any "suggestions" from you.

waitasec said:
yes there is...:areyoucra
because it's...your truth.

You are still projecting as seen when you apply your "implying" to this bit of "arrogance".
 
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