And then what? (what I mean is, what's the point of two religions?)I guess we wait together, you for the coming of the Messiah, and me for the Messiah to return. All known only to God.
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And then what? (what I mean is, what's the point of two religions?)I guess we wait together, you for the coming of the Messiah, and me for the Messiah to return. All known only to God.
Not sure if this is in the right section...
Anyway, through various discussions and, at times, heated debates online with Christians on different sites these last couple of years, I've come under the impression that at least some Christians view Judaism as "Christianity minus Jesus". Certainly, I'm pretty sure this is a mindset that groups like the Hebrew Christians and Messianic Judaism have used to preach to and convert Jews.
Is this really how Christians view Judaism?
Note: This isn't about what role Christians think Jews serve in the world, but about the religion itself.
I don't know either what that means. I don't know what makes that statement true.If I say that all Jews are Israelites, but all Israelites are not Jews...…which is true,
what does this mean ?
That's true. It's only part of the larger Israel. But I assume you're going to give a completely different answer.And another : The little country in the middle east today is not the "Israel" of the Hebrew scriptures.
I don't know either what that means. I don't know what makes that statement true.
That's true. It's only part of the larger Israel. But I assume you're going to give a completely different answer.
Bottom line, Judaism is irrelevant today? Christianity is the only relevant religion?
Note: This isn't about what role Christians think Jews serve in the world, but about the religion itself.
From trying the spirits and study:
Babylonian influenced; from Babylonian Captivity
Was that suppose to be a coherent sentence?
This is so absolutely wrong!
That's all well and good, but the question is about Judaism, not Christianity.
I accept most of this, however I do not believe those of the Jewish faith are enemies of Christ, rather, they are Gods people who refuse to accept the totality of their faith as given by God.You can say that their own choices keep them from advancing into the upper grades, they keep themselves held back in the lower grade.
This will change though. They will finally assume the role they were chosen for, preaching the love of their Messiah and God for all mankind, and his way of salvation when the world is in complete chaos and needs that message most,
And then what? (what I mean is, what's the point of two religions?)
Yet I gave explanation as to my conclusion. All you come back with is an empty 'feel good' opinion.
The Jews did not nail Jesus to the cross, Pilate did.
What do you mean by “the religion itself”? The beliefs and practices? The communities? The institutions?Note: This isn't about what role Christians think Jews serve in the world, but about the religion itself.
You started me thinking about different religions having different qualities and capacities that the world needs now, and I can see that as a likely possibility. It might take some time now for me to start seeing specifically what those might be. Can you think of some examples?It's more an issue of different people having different roles in the world.
So, Judaism today, how do you explain this (video, which shows a particular practice prevalent), according to the Torah, Nevi'im, or even Ketuvim?:@coconut theology -
You wrote, inter alia, "The Jews of yesterday (Jesus day) are not the same as those which claim that designation today, which are nothing but Ashkenazic or Sephardic descent of pagan nations, which mainly (some exception, the torah Jews, which still cannot follow all of the torah, being absent of a Temple, High Priest, Ark of the Covenant, etc, and even if they had it, all of it would be of no avail, seeing as Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of all of it) live their lives by Rabbinism, Talmudism and Kabbalism......"
After long and careful consideration, it would seem that the only appropriate response, better than a face palm emoji is:
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