Exactly one point is we believe Jesus died on an upright stake.
2. What do you do with all these passages
- John 3:11-13
-John 6:38
- john 6:62
- john 17:5
-john 1:1
- John 8:58
Haha, the crucifixtion or otherwise known as crucifiction. LOL
Anyhow, i will expose this so called crucufiction.
Jesus was not crucified as i stated that the apostles thought he did. Which is why they believed they saw a Ghost, now you will say this is after Jesus was crucified.
Obviously the Qur'an is against it, but i will use your own Bible to prove that he still was not.
Remember i do not believe the Bible to be the Word Of God, it may contain certain portions, which we may consider to be the word of God, but it contains also the word of Historians, and Prophets.
Even though i do not believe the Bible is the word of God, which you probably do, i will still give you references from Bible that prove he was not crucified.
In 1 Corinthians ch.15 v.42-44:
So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;
43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.
There were no eye witnesses because look in Gospel Of Mark Ch.14 V.50
Then everyone deserted him and fled.
When Jesus was in risk, all the desiples left. All of them fled. It was from heresy that he was a spirit. That is what they thought.
Further one: Jesus himself says:
Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."
He then proceeds to eat broiled fish, the next verse. He was trying to prove that he was not a spirit. They were overjoyed that he did not die physical in front of them and also ate fish. To prove he was a physical body and chewed in front of them. He was in flesh and bones, a physical body!
SEE.
When Mary goes to the Tomb of Jesus on the third day.
Gospel Of
John 20:1:
Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.
Why did Mary Magdalene go to the Tomb on the third day? If Jesus was supposedly dead, why would she? The reply is given in Gospel Of Mark Ch. 16 V.1:
When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus' body.
To anoint him. Do Jews massage dead bodies on the third day? No. Do Christians massage dead bodies on the third day? No.
Do Muslims? No. So why is she going to the Tomb to massage him who has died on the third day according to you? Because she was the only one besides Joseph Of Armethia and Nicodimus who gave the burial bath to Jesus peace be upon him. And when Jesus body was brought down from the cross, she might have seen some life in the limb body. But naturally, she is not going to say he is alive. Otherwise, they will put him to death again. Seeing some life in him, she comes back on the third day after the Sabbeth day to look for Jesus alive.
She finds that the stone has been rolled away. In Gospel Of Mark Ch. 16 V. 4 and the other verse:
But when they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had been rolled away.
The Question is why was the stone removed and placed at the side? And winding sheets Unwound?
If Jesus was resurrected as a spiritual body, does a spirit require a stone of the entry of the stone to be removed. If it is a spirit, that could not have stopped him.
So the question is why was the stone removed and the winding sheets unwound? It is not required. If it is a physical body the stone had to be removed. The winding sheets, had to be removed.
THIS PROVES JESUS WAS A PHYSICAL BODY AND THE TOMB WAS A PRIVATE PROPERTY IN WHICH JESUS WAS KEPT.
Further if you read in Gospel of John Ch.20 V.15:
He asked her, "Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?" Thinking he was the gardener, she said, "Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will get him."
Mary supposed Jesus to be a gardener. Do resurrected bodies look like gardeners? NO. Jesus was disguised as a gardener because he was afraid of the Jews. A spiritual body need not to be afraid of the Jews because according to the Bible a man only dies once and after that is the day of judgement.
Jesus said in Gospel of John Ch.20 V.36 about spirtualized bodies.
If he is spiritualized why did he disguise himself? It is obvious, he was not. He says to Mary in the style of his talk that she notices him and she rushes towards him.
In Gospel Of John Ch.20 V.15-16-17:
He says do not touch me because he was a physical body. Imagine the physical pain he went through going through the emotion supposedly put on the cross and stuff.
However, But in Gospel of John Ch. 20 V.17: He said i have not yet ascended to my father. Meaning he has not yet been dead.
Jesus explicitly said that he was not yet resurrected proving that he was alive.
It is mentioned in Gospel Of Mark Ch. 16 V. 11:
When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
They heard Jesus was alive from her.
Further, it is mentioned in Gospel Of Matthew Ch.12 V.38
Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from you."
People tell him to see a sign. They wanted a miracle.
Next 2 Verses:
He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
He does not mention anything about the fish, or anything. But he said not sign shall be given to you but the sign of Jonah as Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of fish so shall Son of Man be 3 days and 3 nights in heart of earth.
Jonah was alive. So, for Jesus to fulfill the prophecy he was alive too. When Jonah was alive that was a miracle of God, the same miracle will happen to Jesus when he is alive just as Jonah was. Sunday morning the tomb was empty. The sign says 3 days and 3 nights. As Jonah was, so shall the sun of man. Jesus was for 1 day and 2 night supposedly by the Christians. Is 3 days and 3 nights, the same as 1 day and 1 night? NO! The time factor was not fullfill. If that is what you believe.
In conclusion, he was not crucified. 1) He was brought down the cross in three hours on it. 2) Jesus two crossmates were alive. 3)His legs were not broken. 4) The stone was removed and winding sheets were unwound proving he was alive. 5) He was diguised as a gardener because he was alive trying to be saved from the Jews. 6) The tomb was roomy and spacious. This was for Jesus as he was alive. 7) Jesus tells Mary not to touch him because he was a physical body and it will hurt him since he was on the cross for so long and was then brought down. He was in pain, proving that he was alive. 8) He said i have not yet ascended to my father, meaning he was alive 9) Mary was not afraid recognising Jesus (pbuh) 10) In the upper room, he showed his hands and feet to prove that he was not a spirit but a physical body and alive. 11) They were overjoyed to see him because they thought he was dead but he was alive. 12) He ate a piece of broiled fish and Honeycomb to prove that he was alive. 13) The disciples had heard from Mary that he was alive. 14) The sign of Jonah, as Jonah was three days and three nights, so shall the son of man. Jonah was alive, and so was Jesus pbuh. This was the answer of Jesus when asked for a miracle. So the miracle was that Jesus was alive and saved. So, in short Jesus peace be upon him was put on the cross but he did not die. If he is put on the cross and he dies, then he is crucified. But if he is put on it and not then he was NOT. So, you see Jesus was not crucified.
