How is it true "Jesus is God"?

[Yes]

Good questions but I have a question. Why do you want an answer from me seeing that my point of view means nothing to you?

Why are you so contentious?

 

[savagewind]

Then why did you say when salvation comes?

I'd like to believe that every living things will be made anew in Christ. When that happens salvation has come.

 

[savagewind]

Why are you so contentious?

To annoy you? I don't know! How long have you been considering that question?

 

[Yes]

I'd like to believe that every living things will be made anew in Christ. When that happens salvation has come.

Do you believe that all will be saved?

 

[Yes]

To annoy you? I don't know! How long have you been considering that question?

Why do you ask how long I have been considering that question? Why are you trying to find fault with me?

 

[savagewind]

Do you believe that all will be saved?

Do you?

 

[savagewind]

Why do you ask how long I have been considering that question? Why are you trying to find fault with me?

I shouldn't be talking to you. Maybe we should stop. God bless you!

 

[Yes]

I shouldn't be talking to you. Maybe we should stop. God bless you!

Now that is just wrong.

 

[sojourner]

So you are saying that God was different then? If it is the same God, how is he good and evil at the same time?

No, I'm saying that how we choose to perceive God is different.

 

[sojourner]

Where do you get such things?
If someone does something against you to cause you harm, then they do not love you.

Disobedience doesn't always cause harm. Nor is disobedience always against the person -- only the rule.

 

[sojourner]

So then, you are only out to accuse. Do you know whose will that is?

I'm not accusing anyone of anything, other than of being human. You are human, yes?

 

[sojourner]

The trinity doctrine is a false teaching.

The Doctrine of the Trinity was revealed to the body of true believers. Therefore, it is not false, unless you're willing to concede that Jesus is false.

 

[katiemygirl]

Good. It is called
Preterism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think.

That does not mean it will not take place again, in different ways.

I hate labels! I don't pay much attention to them.

 

[sojourner]

You need the NIV.
You need a translation in your English.

The NRSV is better than either the NIV or KJV

 

[sojourner]

You need to answer the questions.

You need to answer the questions with scripture.

So this is one of those sola scriptura heretical things, again?

 

[sojourner]

If savagewind answered the questions with scripture---then savagewind would see that God and Jesus are used INTERCHANGEABLY, because they ARE THE SAME.

The same, in that they are both God. But they are two distinct Persons.

 

[sojourner]

Maybe according to The Church they are, but sorry, I cannot see Jesus' spirit moving over the face of the water in the beginning. I cannot see Jesus ordering the execution of resisters and babies. If you can that is your problem. Please do not make your problem my problem.

Don't let him kid you. The Doctrine of the Trinity does not conflate the Persons. Jesus did not move over the face of the waters in creation.

 

[Yes]

Disobedience doesn't always cause harm. Nor is disobedience always against the person -- only the rule.

I am speaking about the Bible. You must still be thinking of something else.

If we disobey God, then it is against God.

 

[Yes]

The same, in that they are both God. But they are two distinct Persons.

They are not different persons. If they are different persons, then the Bible contradicts itself. If they are different persons, then there are two DIFFERENT gods.

I believe the Bible and not you.

 

[sojourner]

God and Jesus are used interchangeably, because they are the same.



Who is the First and the Last, God or Jesus?


Is God our Savior, or is Jesus our Savior?


Who is our Redeemer, God or Jesus?



Who is the Shepherd, God or Jesus?



Who is our Husband, God or Jesus?

Who is our Rock, God or Jesus?



Whose commands are they, God's, or Jesus'?


Who sends the Holy Spirit, God, or Jesus?


Who pours out the Holy Spirit, God, or Jesus?



Who gives life, God, Jesus, or the Spirit?

You're asking false questions. It's not "God or Jesus," it's "the Father or Jesus." This is where you're woefully, woefully confused. "God" is not a Person of the Trinity. "The Father" is a Person of the Trinity. The Father and the Son are not interchangeable, although they are both God.